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The view of the Lonely Mountain from the Carrock

Eruonen
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Dec 30 2012, 6:52pm


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Using Karen Fonstad's map and mileage, The Lonely Mountain is about 250 miles away. The question is, could The Company have seen the peak at that distance?
There is a formula:

The formula for calculating maximum line of sight distance d is

d = SQRT (2Rh + h EXP 2) where R is radius of Earth and h is height above sea level
an approximation when h << R is d = SQRT (13h) using metric values
For a 14,000 foot peak that would give about 145-200 miles maximum line of sight distance.

So, if the Carrock is tall enough...higher than 14,000...it may be possible to just see the peak, with the help of oxygen tanks.

http://cosmoquest.org/...5403c5ea90dbededb629

One coimmeter said:
"From the snowline on Mt. Hood, I could see the Three Sisters about 100 miles away."

So, the scene was a literal stretch, but I understand why it was the ending of AUJ.


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Dec 30 2012, 6:58pm)

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The view of the Lonely Mountain from the Carrock Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 30 2012, 6:52pm
    How tall are they depicting.... YaznegSouth40 Send a private message to YaznegSouth40 Dec 30 2012, 6:59pm
        Probaly not, the graph below indicates at 1000' 27 miles. Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 30 2012, 7:01pm
    Here we go, this is why we love geeks // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 7:00pm
        No geek here....Quacking Troll YaznegSouth40 Send a private message to YaznegSouth40 Dec 30 2012, 7:29pm
    A bit of a stretch indeed, Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Dec 30 2012, 7:04pm
        And it would have been if the film ended at that point as well! painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Dec 31 2012, 12:31am
    The Carrock doesn't have to be 14,000 ft. tall Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Dec 30 2012, 7:05pm
        Being a flatlander, I look to those of you who have elevated Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 30 2012, 7:12pm
            Here's a good example Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Dec 30 2012, 7:51pm
    Poetic licence? // dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Dec 30 2012, 7:10pm
    Well, in The Two Towers, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Dec 30 2012, 7:23pm
        They could even talk to Saruman atop Orthanc without shouting! / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 7:33pm
        Granted, I allow the dramatic vistas for the movies as improbable Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 30 2012, 7:38pm
            Don't get me wrong, i love the vistas too. sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Jan 1 2013, 1:26am
    Book-version MTT Gandalf Send a private message to MTT Gandalf Dec 30 2012, 7:47pm
        I had forgotten this! Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Dec 30 2012, 7:57pm
            Ditto. Nice catch. // Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Dec 30 2012, 8:42pm
        That's a great find imin Send a private message to imin Dec 30 2012, 8:45pm
        Great find burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit Dec 30 2012, 8:49pm
            Which, when it was just two movies sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Dec 30 2012, 9:12pm
            And I expect that is where it was originally Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 31 2012, 1:30am
                Yes, an alteranate view from the Carrock would be the looming, dark and Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 31 2012, 4:55pm
                    I do think that would have been a better option.// Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 31 2012, 5:24pm
        Thanks for that,... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Dec 30 2012, 11:27pm
        Watching the signs ... Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Dec 31 2012, 10:07pm
            What about Dol Guldur? / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 31 2012, 10:34pm
                Not sure Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Dec 31 2012, 10:39pm
    I'm pretty sure... The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Dec 30 2012, 7:56pm
    Simple reason Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Dec 30 2012, 8:29pm
    The looming Lonely Mountain Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Dec 30 2012, 10:34pm
    I "found" a thorough (but not exhaustive) recent discussion of this question. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 31 2012, 1:07am
    Is middle earth round or flat? // LordMaximus Send a private message to LordMaximus Jan 2 2013, 5:57pm
        At this time, after the breaking it is round. Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Jan 2 2013, 7:52pm
    Funny arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 11 2013, 3:54pm

 
 
 

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