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How The Hobbit should have started...

QuackingTroll
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Dec 30 2012, 1:41pm


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Here's an idea I've been playing with and perfecting for some time now. I've posted similar outlines on TORn before, but it's becoming clearer the more I play with it. Here's where I am now...

(I've got a more detailed idea, but here's the basic jist)

1) We start with Sam gardening in Bag End

2) Sick-looking Frodo comes out and says to Sam that he doesn't need to garden anymore, but Sam explains he enjoys it.

3) Frodo goes to the letter box - his shoulder hurts. Sam asks "What's wrong?" Frodo replies "it's nothing" and looks at his letters.

4) Frodo finds a letter from Bilbo (from Rivendell). After telling Sam how much he misses Bilbo, he reads the letter and looks sadly at Sam.

5) He explains to Sam that Bilbo has been chosen, because of his adventures, to take the last ship into Valinor and that they are to see him off. Frodo looks upset and goes inside.

6) Inside Frodo looks through his things, he goes into the study and sees The Red Book. In the front cover he discovers a note.

7) He reads -Holm Narrates- "My Dear Frodo, you asked me once... ...But now it's time for you to hear the full tale"

8) He looks at the book and skips "Concerning Hobbits" to get to "Chapter One" and reads -Holm narrates- "It began long ago in a land the like of which you will not find in the world today...". The camera pulls back from Frodo at his desk (exactly as it does with Holm in AUJ) to imply the flash-back.

9) After the epic dwarf prologue we go to a busy Hobbiton "...and that's where I come into the tale..." The camera moves through Hobbiton and up to Bag End as he says "...It began as you might expect, In a hole in the ground..."

10) On the line "...and all the comforts of home" We see Freeman's Bilbo (although not his face) shuffling around his house, a little OCDish, gathering his pipe and tobacco and going outside to smoke. He inhales deeply and we see a smoke-ring come out and the title.

11) The smoke ring turns into a butterfly and we finally see Bilbo's face revealed and the story begins.

Then, of course, toward the end of RotK the camera pulls back toward Frodo at his desk again, now implying the flashback has ended. Sam walks in and says "what is it?" and Frodo says the wound hasn't healed. In the next scene they go to see Bilbo off Smile


The party preparation scene and the running off to meet Gandalf (which doesn't actually make sense?) could then be included as the last scene of TABA to merge TH seamlessly with FotR.

Tada!

Unfortunately, I'm a terrible writer, but I do understand movies and pacing. IMO, not only does this make more sense, and create a better circle. It's also far better paced than the intro we got and also helps to split-up the endings of RotK, because the audience won't be expecting it to end until they've seen the second half of the flashback.

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How The Hobbit should have started... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 1:41pm
    Nice try, Sean Astin // nobofthepony Send a private message to nobofthepony Dec 30 2012, 2:12pm
    How Hobbit should have ended. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Dec 30 2012, 2:35pm
    Nice idea QT :-) DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 2:44pm
        The intro we got... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 2:52pm
            I bet the EE will make it more confusing! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 3:01pm
    Nice, but imho it shouldn't. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Dec 30 2012, 2:54pm
        But it doesn't QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 3:11pm
            This isn't entirely true ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 3:14pm
                Like I said, though. These things might become more relevant in an EE or in TABA QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 3:19pm
                    Ah yes. Agreed. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 3:20pm
                        Not exactly what I was saying... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 3:33pm
            imho Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Dec 30 2012, 3:15pm
                But I think the quest of Mt Doom is far more relevant than Bilbo becoming recluse. QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 3:27pm
                    That is where we disagree... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Dec 30 2012, 3:31pm
                        But for those who haven't seen LotR... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 3:42pm
                            I guess we will have to agree to disagree Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Dec 30 2012, 3:52pm
                                I agree to agree to disagree :P You will never be persuaded! But discussion is what these boards are for after all! // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Dec 30 2012, 4:04pm
                                    Playing with the plot Indigo55 Send a private message to Indigo55 Dec 30 2012, 5:36pm
    nice indeed QT Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Dec 30 2012, 10:01pm
    A Good idea, but... FrogmortonJustice65 Send a private message to FrogmortonJustice65 Dec 30 2012, 11:39pm
    I much prefer the movie's way. morgul lord Send a private message to morgul lord Dec 31 2012, 12:10am
        sailing to valinor Balgrizar Send a private message to Balgrizar Dec 31 2012, 11:03am
            I like that idea Al Carondas Send a private message to Al Carondas Jan 7 2013, 3:19am

 
 
 

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