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Rostron2
Gondor


Dec 29 2012, 10:37pm

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One of the best parts about this series of movies is going to be the time invested in the small details that enhance the big picture as a whole. PJ has an incredible team of art and artisans at his command for these three films. After seeing the first one, I am continually amazed at the care put into each scene, whether real or rendered.

What are some of your favorite small details in TH?

1. The way Bag End looked, even to the details of the larder and the things in it (and were consumed)
2. The way they personified the ponies a little bit.

...?


Briar
The Shire


Dec 29 2012, 10:39pm

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Many little things! [In reply to] Can't Post

But the one that I thought of immediately when I read this post was the dragon kite in the prologue. What a lovely little detail!


Rostron2
Gondor


Dec 29 2012, 10:41pm

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I loved that. It was a nice touch.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 29 2012, 10:47pm

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Dragon kite [In reply to] Can't Post

was awesome. I quit enjoyed that little nod.

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The Prancing Pony
Rivendell

Dec 29 2012, 10:53pm

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that you can see Bilbo's shadow on the wall when he leaves Gollum's cave, though he is still invisible, and Bilbo forgetting his pocket-handkerchief :)

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."


Ataahua
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Dec 29 2012, 11:08pm

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that you can see Bilbo's shadow on the wall when he leaves Gollum's cave



I'll look for it next time.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 29 2012, 11:11pm

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Outside Bilbo's study ... [In reply to] Can't Post

There are two pictures (one a painting of the Green Dragon [I think]), and the other a floor plan of Bag End [again, I think]) on the left and right wall. Both pictures are present in AUJ, FOTR and ROTK, but the AUJ ones are "newer".


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LordGawain
Rivendell

Dec 29 2012, 11:13pm

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In the goblin town sequence, Oin's hearing aid gets stepped on, bending the metal so that the opening in it is shut. Later, at the Carrock scene, in the background, Oin is trying to use his destroyed hearing aid during Thorin's speech, and his face clearly shows it's not really working anymore! So, apparently, he picked it back up when Gandalf told them to take up arms. Loved this little detail!


Magpie
Immortal


Dec 29 2012, 11:17pm

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I liked Bag End a lot too. [In reply to] Can't Post

I liked it in LOTR. At least in the FOTR when Bilbo is head of household. (Hobbitlove did a nice comparison between Bilbo's Bag End and Frodo's Bag End HERE.)

I love houses like this. I want to know what Bilbo has set on that railing that runs around the rooms at head height. I want to know what's on the shelves or in baskets or on the larder shelves. This is a house that is lived in and Bilbo seems to be someone who picks things up, deems them worthy of keeping, then finds a place to set them down to enjoy.

I hadn't noticed the personality of the ponies but I did think they were cute and I was sorry, after all the discussion we had here when we learned they were using Icelandic ponies, that we would see them more.

I was noticing the variety of pipes and then wondered what function different pipe designs serve?


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Magpie
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Dec 29 2012, 11:18pm

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Magpie
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Dec 29 2012, 11:19pm

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Magpie
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Dec 29 2012, 11:23pm

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the 'background' Dwarves aren't the focal point of our attention much but they are given personalities and seem to stick with them.

(it is frustrating to see extras or characters not engaged in the action just standing there being bodies on the stage/screen)

I seem to pick up on a personality for Bifur. It seemed to me that, at one point in the background at Bag End, one of the Dwarves is trying to talk to Bifur and he's not responding at all. I wondered if they were making him out to be a bit dim due to the metal in his head. I was going to try to watch to see what he was doing during other scenes.

also... I think he was the first to stand up when Thorin started singing. I felt as if he's kind of out it, mentally, but the music stirred something immediate and deep in him and he responded instinctively.


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Rostron2
Gondor


Dec 29 2012, 11:42pm

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I especially liked the way the hoard looked. I don't know if it was the color of the gold, or what, but it looked so much better than any other treasure trove I'd seen on film. It wasn't so sparkly and fake looking, it looked -- heavy -- and solid, like gold should.


ForestPark
Rivendell


Dec 29 2012, 11:50pm

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On the floor lower left a set of three "recycle bins" three woven baskets one had paper, one glass and one with tin cans.


dubulous
Rohan

Dec 29 2012, 11:51pm

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I'll join the bandwagon and say the dragon kite was wonderful. And the feathers of the eagles. I can never get over the beauty of that shot.

It's also fun to watch the dwarves reacting to things. Like when Thorin says Óin has read the portents, Dori (I think it was Dori) rolls his eyes like he thinks it's all a load of rubbish.

And I'm still trying to figure out which of the dwarves uses Dwalin's head as a stepping stone to climb up to the tree in the end. It's a bit too dark to tell.


YaznegSouth40
Rivendell

Dec 30 2012, 12:12am

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Rostron2... [In reply to] Can't Post

yes the treasure hoard was unbelievable! That they could pile up THAT much gold and trinkets is incredible and just adds to why the dwarves are my favorite race in MIddle-Earth! The dwarves in their history have also created some of the true legendary things and places such as: Narsil (Telchar ,greatest dwarf smith ever from Nogrod), Menegroth The Thousand Caves, New doors for Minas Tirith (Gimli), as well as their kingdoms and strongholds which are pretty much unnassailable (except by a dragon: see Smaug)!


Nienna
Rohan


Dec 30 2012, 12:40am

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I was obviously looking at someone else! I'll watch next time.


Bladerunner
Gondor


Dec 30 2012, 12:45am

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The look of the dwarven women. [In reply to] Can't Post

I was concerned that the designers would go for a "hideously" comical appearance for the dwarf women, but their look was respectful of the dwarven race. They were very charming.


Nienna
Rohan


Dec 30 2012, 12:45am

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Prior to reading this thread, I thought I was paying attention during the movie! Unimpressed


Iowaboy
The Shire

Dec 30 2012, 12:50am

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The actual bird's nest in Radagast's hair. [In reply to] Can't Post

Which might explain the other bird product on his face.

Also: the opposite end of the trident-thingy on Azog's shortened arm, which sticks out of the tricep part of his upper arm. Ouch!

The blue light of Sting going out to show the younger Goblin's actual death at the hands of Gollum. Not really hidden, but a nice touch all the same.


I'll need to see it again to come up with others--I know there's a lot more at Bag End to mention.


Joe-Mathews
Rivendell


Dec 30 2012, 1:02am

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at the very end. It just made me glad little details like that mentioned in the book (although not in order) occasionally make it in. It also got me excited in anticipation about how Roac or Old Carc the raven will look. I can forgive a lot, but if one of the two doesn't make it in the trilogy, I'll be devastated.

'It is ever so with the things that Men begin: there is a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer, and they fail of their promise.' ... '[Yet their seed] will lie in the dust and rot to spring up again in times and places unlooked-for.'


Rostron2
Gondor


Dec 30 2012, 1:14am

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by Hennah, Taylor and Falconer goes into great detail on every character, the artistic choices, and background. They went deep on this subject of female dwarves and dwarven appearance. It's a beautiful book. I recommend taking a look at it. :)


Randraug
The Shire


Dec 30 2012, 1:16am

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Maybe this is odd, but the cuts and scratches on Bilbo's knuckles after he falls down the crevice. They look like they hurt, and I love how carefully placed wounds can add to a character and the urgency of a scene.

Oh, and the fact that the mountain they land on at the end looks like a bear. I didn't notice that until the third viewing! Nice foreshadowing.

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Rostron2
Gondor


Dec 30 2012, 1:23am

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We'll get to see lots more of Erebor from the inside. I can't wait to see little details like the armor, or a random cup, or some toy perhaps. In a source book they talk about how they designed like a hundred toys, but it didn't say if they made it into the film.


Briar
The Shire


Dec 30 2012, 1:29am

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