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Rostron2
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Dec 29 2012, 12:56am
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It's too bad that the radiation from Chernobyl didn't destroy all the negatives
Unless of course, someone from Rifftrax could do something with it...
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Aragalen the Green
Mithlond
Dec 29 2012, 12:58am
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At least the Dwarves have hoods :P //
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" Well well!", said a voice. "Just look! Bilbo the hobbit on a pony, my dear! Isn't it delicious!"
"Most astonishing wonderful!"
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sharpened_graphite
Ossiriand
Dec 29 2012, 1:01am
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I remember seeing bits of it ages ago...
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It's actually even more hilarious if you can understand Russian, because Gandalf speaks with the tone and mannerisms of a stereotypical villain from a swashbuckling historical drama (basically the way you'd expect Cardinal Richeleau from the "Three Musketeers" to be portrayed).
It's all so weird it borders on the absurd and postmodern. : - D
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N.E. Brigand
Gondolin
Dec 29 2012, 1:19am
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There is something menacing about Gandalf in THE HOBBIT.
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As Curious has observed many times, Gandalf is much more of a Trickster character in the earlier book than he is in The Lord of the Rings.
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N.E. Brigand
Gondolin
Dec 29 2012, 1:24am
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So that makes Jackson's the fourth film version?
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Following the 1966 ten-minute short film, the 1977 American TV version, and this one, which I'd never heard of.
I don't know Russian, so I don't know if I'll watch this one through! So far, the Bilbo reminds me a little of Zero Mostel. (But does he get more of Bilbo's "fatuous boob" quality --to use squire's term-- than Martin Freeman managed?) And the director seems not to know there are such things as two-shots and shot/reverse shots.
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sharpened_graphite
Ossiriand
Dec 29 2012, 1:35am
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"Menacing" doesn't quite begin to describe the
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"17th century grand duke/villainous courtier" sort of vibe that this particular version of Gandalf exudes. You could swear it's really Saruman in disguise. : - D
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ryouko
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Dec 29 2012, 3:05am
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If only there were an actual translation
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Actually, there's a "subtitled" version on Youtube. It's too funny(though, granted, it's too heavy on the language)! It's like watching some really awful amateur stage show, and the made up subtitles make it even funnier! "I'm wearing a pink shirt". All I can say is that this has to be some kind of satire, because it's just way too camp to not be! 
On second thought, I take that back. it's funny for a VERY short time. I'd rather have the actual translations, but doesn't look that'll happen. The song the Dwarves sing is very Russian, but very lively and upbeat. ^_^
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ghost_matt
Ossiriand
Dec 29 2012, 3:26am
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LOTR miniseries from Finland from the 90s that's really bad too. You can find that on youtube.
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ryouko
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Dec 29 2012, 4:07am
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Must see the Finland LoTR! ^_^
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I'll have to find it! This Russian version was awful! It looked like an amateur production where everyone brought their own costumes. And Gandalf looks FABULOUS! *jazz hands*. And for no reason whatsoever....dance numbers for the goblins as well as the men. I just wished there was a subtitled version.
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dubulous
Nargothrond
Dec 29 2012, 9:57am
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Damn, I'm from Finland and I never knew this.
I did see it as a play once, and The Hobbit as a ballet. 
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Lost Hobbit
Ossiriand
Dec 29 2012, 10:55am
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...the Hobbits (Hobitit) and it's from 1993. It's on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/JouninEnsio/videos?sort=dd&view=0&flow=list
Actually it includes Bilbo's story, but mostly it's focused on Lotr events.
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dernwyn
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Dec 29 2012, 12:00pm
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Here's the link to the 10-minute Hobbit
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http://newboards.theonering.net/...latest_reply;so=ASC;
It's a fascinating look at how a book can be "modified" to suit the medium.
And on re-reading Darkstone's original post in your link to squire's post in that thread, I am more convinced than ever how prescient that guy is - spooky!
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geordie
Dor-Lomin
Dec 29 2012, 12:50pm
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Oh heck, I thought you meant a book.
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Gosh, I'm dumb! 
I could join in a convo about Russian editions of The Hobbit - that is, the book. ( the geordie library has on its shelves a copy of an edition of TH and LotR together in a slip-case, with illustrations by Denis Gordeyev. Not to mention an original picture on one of its vast marbled walls.)
But I cannot bring myself to discuss the relevant merits of movie adaptations from Hollywood, the Antipodes and the Urals; dear me, no. That would be like asking me which of three nasty viruses I'd prefer to be injected with - no, no - I can't do that.
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dubulous
Nargothrond
Dec 29 2012, 2:58pm
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I can't believe I didn't know this existed. 
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Ethel Duath
Gondolin
Dec 29 2012, 6:36pm
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Would Tolkien have had Loki in mind at all? Or
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Till Euelnespiegel?
Only slightly of course, as Gandalf is definitely meant to be a "Good Guy," even with the tricks and schemes.
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Kimtc
Nargothrond
Jan 1 2013, 4:57am
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But I think my life is a little more complete for seeing them.
Hope this makes the haters appreciate PJ more :)
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ryouko
Menegroth
Jan 1 2013, 9:03pm
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...the Hobbits (Hobitit) and it's from 1993. It's on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/JouninEnsio/videos?sort=dd&view=0&flow=list
Actually it includes Bilbo's story, but mostly it's focused on Lotr events.
Found it and....oh my.....
One thing I can say is that Gollum is quite good, as is Gandalf. And it does bring up one question. Does nobody in Middle Earth own a comb??
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Jan 1 2013, 9:16pm
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The Ruskies were first? I don't think so!
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From the article:
The point is, in 1985, the Soviets beat the Americans in the race to reboot Tolkien for the small screen.
Imagine the surprise at Rankin/Bass, which produced their animated movie-for-television adaptation of The Hobbit in 1977!
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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