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Sound quality - Dwarven dialects and Gollum

Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Dec 28 2012, 3:31pm

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Sound quality - Dwarven dialects and Gollum Can't Post

Most of the dwarves have a English / UK / Scottish / Irish accent....while Dwalin and Bifur have more of a Russian accent. Well, Bifur just mumbles and you can't decipher it but it is foreign.

The Riddles in the Dark scene is a great part of AUJ but, it is difficult to understand some of the riddles that Gollum is saying due to speed and vocal quality. If you are not familiar with the riddles from the book you miss out on 50% of the riddles based on viewer comments.


DanielLB
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Dec 28 2012, 3:53pm

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Being English myself .... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't have a problem with any of the accents. Do people really mis-understand the Riddles?

As for Bifur - he speaks in Khuzdul. And Dwalin is supposed to be Scottish too.

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Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Dec 28 2012, 3:58pm

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Yes, there are a few dialogue scenes that escape some people [In reply to] Can't Post


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I don't have a problem with any of the accents. Do people really mis-understand the Riddles?

As for Bifur - he speaks in Khuzdul. And Dwalin is supposed to be Scottish too.


Gollum garbles the words and speaks them quickly so some people have no idea what he said.
Dwalin sure sounded like he had a slavic accent in one scene in Bilbo's home.


Eledhwen
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Dec 28 2012, 4:15pm

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Dwalin's definitely Scottish [In reply to] Can't Post

Both accent and actor.

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DanielLB
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Dec 28 2012, 4:20pm

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Is it for the entire sequence? [In reply to] Can't Post


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Gollum garbles the words and speaks them quickly so some people have no idea what he said.


Or just some parts?

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Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Dec 28 2012, 4:23pm

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I would have to hear the line he said at Bilbo's [In reply to] Can't Post

again....otherwise, I agree his normal accent was apparent. I was thinking maybe they were experimenting with accents early on.


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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Dec 28 2012, 4:50pm

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There were parts of the riddle sequence [In reply to] Can't Post

where i had no idea what Gollum was saying. The same was true with TTT and RotK. It's not a big deal, though-- i see these films so many times that it's really only a factor the first or second time. And i've never had a problem with any of the other characters.


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Dec 28 2012, 4:52pm

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This is the first time I've heard that... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not even an English native speaker and I have no problem with Gollum!
He speaks rather clearly to be "destroying" his throat like that!
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Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Dec 28 2012, 6:47pm

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I agree about the Khuzdul... it was way too muffled for me.. battle-cries were inaudible etc. :( // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Xanaseb
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Dec 28 2012, 7:21pm

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as for Gollum, I understood absolutely everything he said o.O ... I'm British like Daniel too. hmm // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Aragalen the Green
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Dec 28 2012, 8:59pm

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I understood Gollum just fine, [In reply to] Can't Post

and I'm not British (well, a lot of my ancestry is, but not for oh, about 200 years Blush).

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demanon
Rivendell


Dec 28 2012, 9:27pm

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yes dwalin Scottish accent [In reply to] Can't Post

he even says "Laddy" when askin Bilbo which way is the food.


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Dec 29 2012, 1:43am

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I understood the accents fine [In reply to] Can't Post

However my mom and dad didn't catch all of what Gollum said, but I understood him completely. I actually loved the British/Scottish/Irish accents. That's one of the things I liked about the film adaptation, that they used British/Irish/Scottish actors. I just thought they fit so well.


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Dec 29 2012, 1:44am

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I loved it when he says "Laddy" to Bilbo! [In reply to] Can't Post

It just fit for some reason. Cool


ryouko
Lorien

Dec 29 2012, 2:02am

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I loved the accents! [In reply to] Can't Post

I loved hearing them use "laddy". It made it feel more...family. ^_^

But I did have trouble understanding some of the words of the riddles when I first watched it. But it wasn't just Gollum, it was Bilbo too. On the second viewing, I was able to understand more. But it was never because of the accents. I watch a LOT of British shows, so I have no problem understanding what is being said. And it was only the riddles. I don't know why, but there is it.

 
 

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