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jimmyfenn
Rohan


Dec 19 2012, 2:24am

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just imagine!

id want 6 lotr films one for each of the 2 books in each part.

just sayin ;)

"You Tolkien to me?!" - Hobbit de Niro


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 19 2012, 4:07am

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Book 6 would need a lot of work to sell it to a main-stream audience.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 19 2012, 8:01am

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I imagine they will decide to make more than 3 films - the remake would have to be remarkably different to PJ's trilogy - the best way of doing that is by staying closer to the book, and coming up with a different structure.

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ElendurTheFaithful
Rivendell


Dec 19 2012, 9:52am

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My perfect numbers [In reply to] Can't Post

Hobbit - 3 movies 3 hours long
LOTR - 9 movies 3 hours long


macfalk
Valinor


Dec 19 2012, 5:37pm

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The Hobbit definately needs to be 2 movies or more. [In reply to] Can't Post

Just imagined if they crammed everything from An Unexpected Party to the Bag End Auction - in one movie! Ugh. I'm getting nausea already... (the fact that RB did a failed adaptation of TH back in 1977 does not change the fact that crafting a somewhat satisfactory movie based upon the book and wrapping it all up in one movie is near-impossible)

LOTR should be 5 movies at minimum.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


brucewayne
Bree

Dec 19 2012, 11:19pm

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The movies are perfect as it is. In 100 years, when everything is so outdated that it's unbearable, then they can make a reboot. And it should be 3 movies. 6 would be terrible. The first and last movie would be a slog!


Eye's on Guard
Lorien


Dec 20 2012, 5:14am

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Especially with the design and score, I say anything different would be an automatic downgrade. No remakes until we're all long gone. Tongue


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 20 2012, 7:55am

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Most people would like a re-boot [In reply to] Can't Post

If they don't like PJ's adaptations - which is entirely understandable. If I disliked the films, I'd want them re-made as soon as possible too.

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Fredeghar Wayfarer
Lorien


Dec 20 2012, 8:28am

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"Failed adaptation?!" Them's fightin' words! I love the Rankin-Bass Hobbit!

Still, whatever your opinion of it, I think it proves that you can do an adaptation of the story in one movie. There was very little that they cut. Heck, PJ himself got much longer books into one movie each with LOTR. I really don't understand the notion that The Hobbit somehow would only work as multiple movies.


macfalk
Valinor


Dec 20 2012, 8:47pm

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 20 2012, 9:47pm

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Just to have a different version. I'd love to see what someone else could do with the material.

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Kendalf
Rohan


Dec 22 2012, 8:16pm

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I imagine they will decide to make more than 3 films - the remake would have to be remarkably different to PJ's trilogy - the best way of doing that is by staying closer to the book, and coming up with a different structure.


What with the critical, commercial and fan success of the trilogy, I don't think any director or any studio will want to touch it with a barge-pole. Not for a long, long time.

The only "remarkably different" thing I can see happening, therefore, is HBO taking it on and treating us to three seasons of ten episodes.

A thirty hour version, rather than 10? Yes, please. The potential is quite awesome...

"Show...a little more respect...for faerie tales, Riskbreaker."


LordotRings93
Rohan


Dec 22 2012, 9:06pm

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I don't mind reboots for other movies, like the new "Conan the Barbarian" reboot I really enjoyed (moreso than the originals). But with LOTR, it already feels as perfect as can be. I can't picture anyone else portraying Frodo, or Aragorn, or Gandalf. And I definitely can't see another actor mocapping as brilliantly as Andy Serkis's Gollum. And I don't know what else you could put in to the films. The only major things left out were Old Forest/Bombadil/Barrow Downs (which would've been cool), and the scouring of the Shire. I couldn't picture LOTR being split over 3 movies for each book. It'll work for The Hobbit, since we get things that happened during that time into the film.

But hey, if it was rebooted, no doubt I'd probably see it. Although, if they ever do reboot it, don't do it any time soon. Wait another 10-15 years, maybe 20. But LOTR can stand the test of time, so I don't think it'll need rebooting. Most films that get reboots weren't huge, Oscar-winning successes (sometime), that have already been critically acclaimed and loved worldwide.

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Elenorflower
Gondor


Dec 22 2012, 10:52pm

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could make a good go of it. If rebooted I would like a less spectacular, more faithful to the books version, with less emphasis on spectacle and more on the story as is. I could sacrifice the cgi stuff for a scaled down version. HBO has the cash and the BBC the talent. We have seen from GOT that they are more than capable of giving us a very high quality production, and its made in Ireland. I dont see a problem with different actors playing the parts, I mean people seemed to like a Hunt for Gollum alright.


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 23 2012, 9:10am

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Apart from Doctor Who, I don't really watch any other dramas/series on BBC. I think Merlin is awful. I'm not sure they could pull it off. Crazy

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Elenorflower
Gondor


Dec 23 2012, 2:14pm

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you must be very young if you dont remember the classic BBC costume dramas, of Dickens, Mrs Gaskell, Bronte sisters? What about Bleak House, or Cranford or Pride and Prejudice? they are the highest quality period dramas in the world. World class character actors, Dont judge the BBC on Merlin, its a kids show, its hardly representative.


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 23 2012, 2:17pm

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I'm not a fan of costume dramas (I've tried Downton Abbey...), but it's not my "thing". I've seen snippets of Bleak House, Cranford and Pride & Prejudice, but like I said, it's not my kind of programme.

Merlin was the best "fantasy" example I could think of, comparable to Tolkien.

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Elenorflower
Gondor


Dec 23 2012, 5:07pm

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a new fantasy series from the book Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell. Its supposed to be Harry Potter for adults. In 2013, I wait to see if its any good.


Kendalf
Rohan


Dec 24 2012, 12:22am

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If rebooted I would like a less spectacular, more faithful to the books version, with less emphasis on spectacle and more on the story as is. I could sacrifice the cgi stuff for a scaled down version...We have seen from GOT that they are more than capable of giving us a very high quality production


Couldn't have put it better myself. "Game of Thrones" amply demonstrates HBO's capacity to tackle to huge, labyrinthine narratives whilst maintaining the perfect balance between the personal, intimate, character-driven drama and jaw-dropping spectacle (Season 2's "Blackwater" episode was simply sensational)...

They'd have to take it all to new heights in order to get anywhere near doing LotR justice, but, you're right, I'd be happy if they didn't try to emulate Jackson. A much lower-key interpretation would be preferable and, given the extra twenty hours or so they'd have to tell the tale, the potential depth of such a "reboot" would be quite tantalising...

"I have found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love."


(This post was edited by Kendalf on Dec 24 2012, 12:23am)


Elenorflower
Gondor


Dec 24 2012, 12:35am

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a whole 1 hour episode from them leaving Hobbiton to arriving in Crickhollow to Fire! Foes! and the Hobbits entering the Old Forest through a dark and misty High Hay and the start of the journey, leaving Fatty Bolger running to safety. Bliss. i would like to linger over every small detail, and make it intimate and cozy, that way the Hobbits seem so small in a huge land and a huge tale.


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Kendalf
Rohan


Dec 24 2012, 12:36am

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What about Bleak House, or Cranford or Pride and Prejudice? they are the highest quality period dramas in the world. World class character actors


True, very true...

But they're also not really similar in tone or style to LotR, are they? Besides HBO, your post got me thinking. Who else might make a good fist of it? Or at least make a worthwhile contribution to a joint production. Then I thought of Ridley Scott's Scott Free production company which gave us "The Pillars of the Earth" last year or the year before (and will shortly be bringing us its sequel "A World Without End", I think). That was a masterful adaptation of a similarly hefty tome...

Ha! The more I think of this possible future TV adaptations of LotR, the more excited I get about it!
Laugh

"I have found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love."


Kendalf
Rohan


Dec 24 2012, 12:38am

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a whole 1 hour episode from them going to Crickhollow to Fire! Foes! and the Hobbits entering the Old Forest through a dark and misty High Hay. Bliss. Evil,


Smile

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Elenorflower
Gondor


Dec 24 2012, 12:47am

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I am still waiting for a good adaptation [In reply to] Can't Post

of Neil Gaiman books. I thought the last Neverwhere tv adaptation was not very good, although its one of my favourite books.


mandel
Rivendell


Dec 25 2012, 7:12am

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Neil Gaiman's novel "American Gods" is being adapted... [In reply to] Can't Post

...into a series by Showtime! The novel is great, and will transfer very well into a TV series, I think...

By the way, I real the novel of "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell," and I'm sure the BBC adaptation will be awesome. It's basically a novel of manners with a fantasy plot, and the BBC has (as you pointed out) done outstanding adaptations of this kind of material...


Elenorflower
Gondor


Dec 25 2012, 4:01pm

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wowzer! thanks for telling me! [In reply to] Can't Post

thats brilliant. I love that book. Sly I have read Anansi Boys too. I look at spiders with a LOT more respect after I read it. I think it could be fascinating if they get it right.

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