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SCOD: A frolicking Gollum - sometimes you just want to hug the little fellow

Tol Eressea

Dec 14 2012, 7:15am

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SCOD: A frolicking Gollum - sometimes you just want to hug the little fellow Can't Post

Today's the big day for many of us (well not me, probably Frown), but for many TORnsibs! But if you're waiting for crowds to thin a bit, or if you just want a break from Hobbitmania, here's another screencap to ponder. Here we have Gollum in Smeagol mode. He has a puppy dog quality here, very eager to please.

Any thoughts on this image are welcome, but, some points to consider include:

Has Gollum really reverted to Smeagol? Is his eagerness to please and to be helpful sincere at this point?

What do you think of the compostion? Is there any significance to his placement within the shot?

What about technical issues - how realistic do you think he looks? Any problems?

Any thoughts on Andy Serkis' performance?

Which leads me to a little extracurricular credit. AngelicEvil Please forgive me on this, it's a bit unorthadox, but it's something that has always fascinated me: Was Gollum's look and behavior in any way influenced by the character actor, Peter Lorre? I am always reminded of him whenever I watch Gollum. Maybe this has been addressed, if not, I wonder what others think. Here's a clip from Casablanca featuring Peter Lorre.

Thanks everyone! Smile

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Dec 14 2012, 4:49pm

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partly [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the technology was quite well used on Gollum. I remember a time when imaginary characters were painted in rotoscope style, ala "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" so we've come quite a long ways.

You want so badly to like Smeagol and pity him. But Sam does such a good job of reminding us that he's a villain with Frodo also keeping us grounded to the fact that we need for there to be a way back, for both of them.

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Dec 16 2012, 1:54am

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I liked this scene in the film.. [In reply to] Can't Post

it was a good character moment. However I never liked how the movies portrayed Gollum as being dismissed by Smeagol. It wasn't like that in the books. Gollum should've always been there.

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The Shire

Dec 16 2012, 11:20pm

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Strong scene. [In reply to] Can't Post

Technically well done. I actually had an online conversation with somebody when it was time for RotK oscar consideration where they said there wasn't much CGI in RotK. Of course that meant the CGI was so good they didn't even realize they were watching CGI. Of course they knew about Gollum, but it actually didn't jump to the front of their mind when they though RotK CHI. (I know this is TTT, but the point still holds I think)

Serkis I think always did an excellent job, this scene included. Of course it is not always easy to know where Andy ends and the CGI begins.

Composition. There probably is something there, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out. Possibly contrasting the hopeful Smeagol with the foreboding mountains in the distance.

Has Gollumn reverted to Smeagol, is he sincere? I do believe he is sincere. Smeagol is an addict of sorts, and he is getting help for the first time. He can see the light of what he once was for the first time in hundreds of years. He is having a good day. Gollum is being kept at bay.

But sadly, we know that the nature of this addiction is such that the hope can only be temporary.


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