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Already some potential material for AUJ: EE?

Captain Salt
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Dec 8 2012, 10:39pm


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As reviews of AUJ have begun to appear online, it becomes apparent some scenes we KNOW were filmed, and yet do not appear in Film 1 and wouldn't really seem to fit in later in the story, might appear in an eventual longer cut of AUJ. So far, these include:

- The Hobbiton marketplace scene with Bilbo...we saw a glimpse of this scene in the first teaser from December 2011, and it was covered extensively in Quint's AICN Hobbit Report #2 - "They Call Me Mr. Chubb", yet apparently it's out of the film:


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At this point [Bilbo] has already been propositioned by Gandalf for the big adventure and expects the wizard to pop up and bug him about it some more, I guess. After buying the fish from me he bumps into another Hobbit named Worrywort pushing a wheelbarrow of vegetables and Bilbo asks if he has seen the wizard wandering about.

Over some stalls Bilbo sees what appears to be Gandalf’s pointy grey hat and he tries to hide, usually behind other Hobbits including a confused Worrywort and an oblivious Hobbit couple on a romantic stroll through the market. They were almost obnoxiously cute here, stealing kisses as they shopped, unknowingly hiding a Baggins. It’s also of some note that Otho and Lobelia Sackville-Baggins are in this scene, Lobelia turning her nose down on Bilbo’s erratic behavior as he hides behind Worrywort…


- The flashback scene of a younger Bilbo with his mother Belladonna meeting Gandalf at a party. This was mentioned by Ian McKellen, and possibly others, in interviews, art for the scene appears in the WETA Chronicles book, and pictures of the party have appeared elsewhere such as the Visual Dictionary:


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[Ian McKellan] suggested a scene showing the wizard being introduced to a baby Bilbo and his mother Belladonna Took and it was shot. He's not sure if the scene will make the final cut of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, but his suggestion was taken seriously.

''We see Gandalf observing this little boy who's full of beans and full of adventure. And I let him play with [a] toy dragon that I've got.

''And when he's thinking, 'Who should we get? Oh, there's that little boy'. And he goes back to Hobbiton to meet this little boy who's now grown up and is a real stodgy, dull, settled, unadventurous person. And he's so disappointed. 'What happened to you? Come on! You've got to go on an adventure, it'll be good for you. Get back your childish enthusiasm!'''


- Originally, the first film was going to include Gandalf and Radagast exploring the Tomb of the Nazgul - footage of this was shown at the Cinema-Con presentation earlier this year, we saw glimpses of it in both the teaser and the full trailer, and art of the "King's Tomb" was included in the WETA book being released next week...however, it's unknown if this has been re-written/re-worked, or will appear in Film 2, along with Gandalf's confrontation with Thrain/Bolg in Dol Guldur:


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Gandalf is shown alone in the dark with his staff lit, searching through catacombs where the ringwraith's tombs are...then Radagast appears suddenly. Gandalf whips around to see who is sneaking up on him, he exhales rather irritated, “Oh, it’s you,” Gandalf and Radagast explore the tombs which have been broken open, the tomb of the Witch-King, Radagast says that “These are very Dark Spells, this is not a nice place to meet”, and Gandalf assures him “No, it is not”…leaning over the vertical shaft, they both look down over the edge, as Gandalf counts a total of nine tombs, all with their spells broken and bars ripped.


- "The Cat and the Fiddle" being sung at the Unexpected Party; we saw this being filmed in Peter's Vlog 3, yet it's evidently no longer in the film (I wonder if this was always just "cover" for their filming "Blunt the Knives" as in the B-roll footage, the scene while filming appears to be identical...though not sure why they'd cover-up the inclusion of a song from the book)?

- Thorin smithing a sword as seen in the latest 13-min TV special, which is apparently not in the film (weirdly, the surroundings around Thorin look like Dale IMO, but it could be a random town or even Ered Luin).

- Eh, what happened to Bombur's dialogue? He travels from the Shire through the Misty Mountains without uttering a word? Was this always the plan? Helloooo?! Blush

Anyone else have material which may appear in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Extended Blu-ray Edition? I can't believe that with three films, ANYTHING would be edited out, but this seems to be the case! All well, more releases for us to look toward to, and more moolah for Warners! AngelicEvilTongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Dec 8 2012, 10:41pm)

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Already some potential material for AUJ: EE? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Dec 8 2012, 10:39pm
    Some more: Carne Send a private message to Carne Dec 8 2012, 10:44pm
    I really hope so Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 8 2012, 10:50pm
    Many of those scenes Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 8 2012, 10:53pm
        but I don't want to just hear about all this stuff Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 8 2012, 10:55pm
    i think its a given were getting EE's MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Dec 8 2012, 11:24pm
        Extras confirmed by PJ! tolktolk Send a private message to tolktolk Dec 8 2012, 11:34pm
    Quint just tweeted this: Carne Send a private message to Carne Dec 8 2012, 11:29pm
        Hooray! Brandalf85 Send a private message to Brandalf85 Dec 8 2012, 11:40pm
        BEST NEWS OF THE DAY Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 8 2012, 11:42pm
        Yes! Take that critics! Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Dec 9 2012, 12:32am
            DOS and TABA Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 9 2012, 12:36am
        Well there we are! // Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Dec 9 2012, 12:58am
        Yeah boi!!! Asy Send a private message to Asy Dec 9 2012, 1:01am
            This Extended Edition news... sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Dec 9 2012, 1:40am
            And by my counting sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Dec 9 2012, 1:45am
                LOTR EE Trilogy is approx 11-12 hours morgul lord Send a private message to morgul lord Dec 9 2012, 1:53am
                    I'll bring the caffeine drinks. / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Dec 9 2012, 1:58am
                    Bomby Reporting in..sitting through the LOTR EE Marthon..Now Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Dec 9 2012, 2:10am
    Gandalf/Galadriel Rivendell hot springs scene? sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Dec 9 2012, 1:46am
        You are making a Mistake if you See TH at 24 Frames Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Dec 9 2012, 2:36am
    it's official an EE Hobbit:AUJ BeornBerserker Send a private message to BeornBerserker Dec 9 2012, 3:20am
        it will be a long wait BeornBerserker Send a private message to BeornBerserker Dec 9 2012, 4:04am
            Extended Edition confirmed? Hanzkaz Dec 9 2012, 7:39am
        25 minutes? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 9 2012, 10:09am
            you think? Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 9 2012, 10:22am
                The more footage the better ;-) DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 9 2012, 10:29am
                    I do think that the next EEs will be particularly longer Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 9 2012, 10:39am
            I think FOTR EE didn't have more than about 15 min of additional footage. / Pousette Send a private message to Pousette Dec 9 2012, 1:15pm
                no Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 9 2012, 1:48pm
                    FOTR certainly benefited from the additional 30 minutes DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 9 2012, 2:21pm
                        Midnighter Tips Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Dec 9 2012, 3:49pm
                            Another Hint for Midnighters! Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Dec 9 2012, 4:13pm
                                If we're awake enough Tim Send a private message to Tim Dec 9 2012, 4:26pm
                    Correct! I misremembered. // Pousette Send a private message to Pousette Dec 9 2012, 7:50pm
    erm... lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 12:49pm
        There is no link because Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 1:40pm
            ok lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 3:10pm
                To save repetition DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 9 2012, 3:14pm
                    Thank you Daniel :) Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 3:38pm
                You will be disapointed Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 3:33pm
            ok lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 3:38pm
                He has given spoilers to me Carne Send a private message to Carne Dec 9 2012, 3:40pm
                    I can think of several reason to make lies, but Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 3:46pm
                        hey... lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 3:54pm
                            I am all ears... :) Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 4:00pm
                                i will tell lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 4:05pm
                                    Sorry I am not quite certain I get the question, but... Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 4:18pm
                                        ok sir lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 4:23pm
                                            No Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 4:27pm
                                                ok lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 4:33pm
                                                    It's alright :) Notanelvishname Send a private message to Notanelvishname Dec 9 2012, 4:41pm
                                                        cut out for the SEE or left for film 2 lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 4:47pm
                            Tsk Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Dec 9 2012, 4:08pm
        Yes, the exclusion of scenes was gleaned from what Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Dec 9 2012, 5:43pm
    Yes please! Pousette Send a private message to Pousette Dec 9 2012, 1:24pm
        over 30min lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Dec 9 2012, 1:37pm
            Oh! Pousette Send a private message to Pousette Dec 9 2012, 1:50pm
    Actually, I also hope for the extensive Appendices and design... TheHutt Send a private message to TheHutt Dec 9 2012, 3:53pm

 
 
 

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