Our Sponsor Sideshow Collectibles Send us News
Lord of the Rings Tolkien
Search Tolkien
Lord of The RingsTheOneRing.net - Forged By And For Fans Of JRR Tolkien
Lord of The Rings Serving Middle-Earth Since The First Age

Lord of the Rings Movie News - J.R.R. Tolkien
Do you enjoy the 100% volunteer, not for profit services of TheOneRing.net?
Consider a donation!

  Main Index   Search Posts   Who's Online   Log in
The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
PJ's Cameo

The Shire

Dec 8 2012, 10:41am

Post #1 of 14 (1133 views)
PJ's Cameo Can't Post

So, PJ said on Colbert that he DOES have a cameo in the first film and that it is during the first 6-7 minutes of it. So I guess, he is a hobbit?

Glóin the Dark

Dec 8 2012, 10:45am

Post #2 of 14 (656 views)
If it's (Spolier!) [In reply to] Can't Post

in the first seven minutes......I'd say he's more likely to be a Dwarf.

(Subject line edited for spoilers)

(This post was edited by Altaira on Dec 8 2012, 4:44pm)

The Shire

Dec 8 2012, 10:50am

Post #3 of 14 (602 views)
A dwarf [In reply to] Can't Post

Could be, but I thought the film begins with old Bilbo telling Frodo the story - so, basically the first minutes take place in the Shire?


Dec 8 2012, 11:03am

Post #4 of 14 (600 views)
colbert is in the film as well [In reply to] Can't Post

in this one, or one of the next?

Glóin the Dark

Dec 8 2012, 11:29am

Post #5 of 14 (571 views)
My understanding is... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that the opening of the film is a historical prologue, narrated by Bilbo, concerning Erebor and Smaug. If that's true then there might be a few initial shots set in the Shire, but most of the characters appearing in the first seven-ish minutes would be Dwarves and Men.


Dec 8 2012, 12:36pm

Post #6 of 14 (588 views)
SPOILER [In reply to] Can't Post

That's what I read:

As far as I know it is Galadriel telling the prologue, mirroring FotR and then a second prologue with Frodo and Bilbo in which Bilbo starts thinking back to the day Gandalf asked him out on the adventure.

Glóin the Dark

Dec 8 2012, 1:40pm

Post #7 of 14 (480 views)
I've seen both reports. [In reply to] Can't Post

I.e., that Bilbo narrates the prologue and that Galadriel narrates the prologue - but the latter only from one source (until now) and the former more often.

Perhaps some reporters have been mixing this up with later narration by Bilbo from his book (or some writing addressed to Frodo).

I've also read a report that the first shot of the film is of Bag End or the Shire - but perhaps this is really a reference to the first shot after the prologue.

(This post was edited by Glóin the Dark on Dec 8 2012, 1:41pm)


Dec 8 2012, 1:55pm

Post #8 of 14 (501 views)
SPOILER AGAIN [In reply to] Can't Post

Spoiler again...

There seem to be two prologues... that is what a poster on IMDB - who obviously has seen it and has answered a lot of questions there - said.

Galadriel giving an introduction on the dwarves and the kingdoms of Erebor and the city of Dale.

Then Bilbo on the morning of his 111. birthday with Frodo hammering the party sign to the door and getting the mail for old Bilbo and running of to the place where we first see him in FotR... then the "An Unexpected Journey" title comes and the movie flashes back to young BIlbo and Gandalf.

The Battle of Azanulbizar btw is not part of the prologue but another flashback told by Balin acoording to that viewer.

If you look up the thread on IMDB, watch out for the useless fight there between fanboys and haters. Both "parties" are just ridiculous over there.


Dec 8 2012, 3:01pm

Post #9 of 14 (431 views)
Spoiler [In reply to] Can't Post

The "introduction on the dwarves and the kingdoms of Erebor and the city of Dale." is narated by Bilbo. Not Galadriel. The rest is pretty accurate.


Dec 8 2012, 4:10pm

Post #10 of 14 (369 views)
I don't get all the confusion [In reply to] Can't Post

Clearly some people think it was Galadriel, and others Bilbo!

Want Hobbit Movie News? Hobbit Headlines of the Week!

Tol Eressea

Dec 8 2012, 4:46pm

Post #11 of 14 (339 views)
IMDb [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, i spent some time on the IMDb Hobbit boards the other night and it is just stupid over there. There are bigger trolls there than anything in The Hobbit. There were some d-bags who just would not shut up about how P.J. & Co. made the move to 3 films purely as a money grab. I tried reasoning with them for a minute (why would they wait until shooting was over, so that they would have to get all the actors and crew for another entire shoot a year later, to make that decision?!), but soon realized it was an excercise in futility and gave up. So if you venture over that way, beware!


Dec 8 2012, 8:49pm

Post #12 of 14 (283 views)
PJ's role [In reply to] Can't Post

It make sense that he should be a Dwarves, for they got to tell flahs-bak like what's the matter with Erebor. The audience will want to know. I don't expect to notice him in this cameo the first viewing though... As was the case when he was a man of Bree.

Valandil ed Imladris

Dec 8 2012, 10:04pm

Post #13 of 14 (250 views)
probably dwarf [In reply to] Can't Post

so he gets his hobbit cameo in TABA, at the end of all things


Dec 8 2012, 10:22pm

Post #14 of 14 (263 views)
I don't undestand either... [In reply to] Can't Post

The movie starts with Old Bilbo writing his adventures in the red book for Frodo. He starts by describing the kingdom of Erebor and the coming of Smaug. So he is narating the whole thing.


Search for (options) Powered by Gossamer Forum v.1.2.3

home | advertising | contact us | back to top | search news | join list | Content Rating

This site is maintained and updated by fans of The Lord of the Rings, and is in no way affiliated with Tolkien Enterprises or the Tolkien Estate. We in no way claim the artwork displayed to be our own. Copyrights and trademarks for the books, films, articles, and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the fair use clause of the Copyright Law. Design and original photography however are copyright © 1999-2012 TheOneRing.net. Binary hosting provided by Nexcess.net

Do not follow this link, or your host will be blocked from this site. This is a spider trap.