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SCOD #2, Week of Dec. 3 -- Two minor characters walk into a room...


Dec 6 2012, 5:03pm

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SCOD #2, Week of Dec. 3 -- Two minor characters walk into a room... Can't Post

I thought I'd feature two of the smaller shining stars from the LOTR films in this second post. I could not decide between them, so you get them both!

First, we have Wormtongue:

And then, Gamling:

Questions for you! Pick one, all or just comment at will!

1. Looking at this shot of Brad Douriff (sp?), it strikes me that he could have also done a great job playing Gollum. The guy is so great at being creepy. Are you a Brad fan and what did you think of his interpretation of Wormtongue?

2. Gotta love Wormtongue's lace hankie -- I know they talk about the choice of this costume prop for him somewhere in the commentaries -- anyone recall the specifics?

3.The shot of Gamling is from an EE scene I've rarely watched -- do you recognize it, and did you like this moment between Gamling and his King before they go to Helm's Deep? Gamling seems more challenging of Theoden here...which is kind of an interesting contrast to the later scene where he puts Theoden's armor on him and says he'll follow him anywhere. Are these two scenes meant to be bookend moments? Any comments on them?

4. What details do you notice in the 2nd shot? I like the way Gamling's framed in the doorway like that, and the clarity of the shot, so you can see a lot of the costuming, set and prop intricacies -- it's like Theoden is having to face his heritage and the spirit of his people here or something...like history is judging him, if I can put it that way....

5. Any other thoughts or comments on our two Minor Men of the Hour?

Thanks to all who replied or lurked! Now, you can go back to waiting for The Hobbit! :)



Dec 6 2012, 5:09pm

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Brad Dourif [In reply to] Can't Post

I've never considered him for Gollum, but it seems an inspired choice! I think he could have done an excellent job. But I don't think I could give him up as Wormtongue. I thought he was amazing.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales

Tol Eressea

Dec 7 2012, 7:47am

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Wormtongue as a sort of male Miss Havisham [In reply to] Can't Post

I had never thought of it before, but examining this screen cap, I notice his fur collared velvet coat, rings, and that lace hankie you mentioned, all of which have seen better days. He seems like Miss Havisham from Great Expectations - someone who hangs on to past expectations and who has become twisted and spiteful because those dreams never came to pass. It makes me wonder what happened to turn him from someone who, apparently, considered himself quite a dashing man with a promising future as the king's advisor, to a resentful, manipulative snake. I wonder if there's a spiderweb covered wedding cake in his room? Tongue

Thanks weaver! BTW, I love your thread title! Wish I could come up with a fitting joke to go with it. Cool

"The question isn't where, Constable, but when." - Inspector Spacetime

(This post was edited by zarabia on Dec 7 2012, 7:48am)

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Tol Eressea

Dec 8 2012, 6:34am

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Chucky, Chucky, Chucky..... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think I need to go into further detail on Dourif's history (if so, shame on you).

I can definitely catch onto your thoughts on him as Gollum, but I'm definitely glad that someone with his name was able to bring some genuine life to Wormtongue.

Gamling is a whole other subject. I can't rightfully recite this actor's name off the top of my head, but for what he is, he stands as both visually and .... vocally?..... a character/actor that is greatly overshadowed.

Thanks for covering this week, weaver. Even in the midst of The Hobbit, I'm sure I can't be the only one who's still up for a little talk over LotR. Smile

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