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One Reviews Thread to Rule them all ... (EMBARGO LIFTS: 9 PM PST)
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Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 7:46am

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Rotten Tomatoes Score is [In reply to] Can't Post

80

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey/

-Irfon

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Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Dec 4 2012, 7:47am

Post #152 of 237 (1287 views)
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There are a lot of divisive things about The Hobbit. [In reply to] Can't Post

Beginning with the tone of the book, which is not to everyone's taste. There is a pretty large number of fans who prefer LOTR to The Hobbit, and it's not too surprising that we'd see that split among reviewers as well. This was always a danger with filming this lighter, simpler story after LOTR; anyone expecting the same weight and drama may feel a little less drawn in. But I'm pleased with the number of people who seem to have forgiven this and enjoyed the fun and action of it all.

And the HFR reviews seem to be pretty well divided, as are opinions of 3D in general, for that matter. It seems to be a "love it or hate it" sort of thing, and I'm looking forward to finding out which camp I'll fall into.

We're not going to get nonstop raves - and frankly, I never expected them. But I've a feeling people may like the next two movies more; the storyline won't need so much exposition, there will be larger scale action sequences, and the story is going to get more serious. Plus, there's going to be a dragon. People may well like AUJ a lot better when seen in context (and in hindsight) than they do by itself. We'll see.

Silverlode






Cave Troll
Rivendell

Dec 4 2012, 7:55am

Post #153 of 237 (1217 views)
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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

There are too many divisive elements to this film for it to get universal acclaim. Almost everyone I know seems to be wanting or expecting something different... and, yeah, I do think this is the film that people will like the least.


zecharas
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Dec 4 2012, 8:04am

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I really do not care for "critics" [In reply to] Can't Post

If the hobbit had been released in 2001-03 and Fellowship was about to debut on the 14th, I would put money on similar reactions from so called critics. Unfortunately, these reviews are much more abundant and easily accessible in this day and age then they were when LOTR came out. Now everyone can be an "acclaimed" movie critic.

Its unfortunate that some of these critics' views can alter our once high excitement level into a more than worried state about whether or not PJ has completely failed in creating the Hobbit. Relax and wait to see the film and perceive it with your own minds rather than from someone who says they are an esteemed film critic. These critics just seem to have entirely too much influence upon people. And no I'm not trying to point out anyone in particular, just a general thought from what I have seen since these reviews hit.


Wordofmask
Lorien

Dec 4 2012, 8:06am

Post #155 of 237 (1160 views)
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I hope [In reply to] Can't Post

DoS wouldn't be the same like this. should PJ stop supporting HFR for a while? because over 3 days we have read so many reaction concentrated in tech. so these many reviews. I mean just show it in normal 24fps and let ppl decide it without HFR 3D distraction. Unsure


Gusev8
Bree

Dec 4 2012, 8:08am

Post #156 of 237 (1151 views)
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Agree with you 100 % [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't get mind tricked really quick so in my opinion and seeing the clips it's going to be amazing !


Nightwing
Bree

Dec 4 2012, 8:12am

Post #157 of 237 (1310 views)
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Seems to me that the real winner in all of this is... [In reply to] Can't Post

Rob Kazinsky. Who managed to get himself out of this whole mess very early on.


Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:15am

Post #158 of 237 (1195 views)
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Why [In reply to] Can't Post

reviews have been mostly positive so far

-Irfon

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Mooseboy018
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:19am

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80% on RT so far [In reply to] Can't Post

Apparently that means it's a mess. I know it could go down from there, but... right now I think it's far from looking like a "mess".Crazy


(This post was edited by Mooseboy018 on Dec 4 2012, 8:19am)


Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:21am

Post #160 of 237 (1132 views)
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ha ha [In reply to] Can't Post

aye. 80% any films bellow 81% is a mess. Peter Jackson has failed Wink

-Irfon

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Mooseboy018
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:28am

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This may be an extreme case... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but I'd just like to bring up another movie I was looking forward to a couple years ago.

I remember looking at RT as the first reviews rolled in, and it was at literally 0% (as in no one liked it, not zero reviews) for the first day or so.

THAT'S a mess. Tongue


Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:29am

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Also is a mess is [In reply to] Can't Post

twilight getting a 100% on it's first day Wink

-Irfon

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Darthy
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Dec 4 2012, 8:35am

Post #163 of 237 (1084 views)
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The content is worrying [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the content of the reviews is more worrying then the score. Also I think the overall RT score is less meaningful then the average score.


(This post was edited by Darthy on Dec 4 2012, 8:40am)


Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:38am

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Average are hard to gauge [In reply to] Can't Post

for example, one low score by one reviewer can really effect the average, so the majority may give it a much higher score

-Irfon

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Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:40am

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Hobbit on 62 on metacritict [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey

But don't go all doom and gloom, it's only got 5 reviews on there.

-Irfon

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Darthy
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Dec 4 2012, 8:43am

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Possible, but not likely imo. [In reply to] Can't Post

It is quite possible, but on RT you would be hard pressed to find a film that is considered universally great with a low average score.


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Dec 4 2012, 8:43am

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It's too early [In reply to] Can't Post

to get a true average: RT only has 10 reviews (it takes 40 to count as "certified") and metacritic only has 5 so far. By the end of the week we'll have a more representative sample.

Silverlode






Runk Snusgrop
Rivendell


Dec 4 2012, 8:45am

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Review @ Nerdist.com [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.nerdist.com/...n-expected-pleasure/



Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 8:45am

Post #169 of 237 (1000 views)
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exactly too soon [In reply to] Can't Post

fans always amuse me with their way to early doom and gloomWink

-Irfon

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duats
Grey Havens

Dec 4 2012, 8:52am

Post #170 of 237 (1098 views)
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Here's Devin's review [In reply to] Can't Post

http://badassdigest.com/...y-is-perfectly-okay/


demnation
Rohan


Dec 4 2012, 9:00am

Post #171 of 237 (1015 views)
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I found this amusing [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.boxoffice.com/...n-unexpected-journey

"Tolkien could invent names and languages, but he couldn't create a plot at gunpoint."

Funny, considering ME has its origins in the trenches of WW1.Laugh

Use Well the Days


Welsh hero
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 9:12am

Post #172 of 237 (1005 views)
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Now on 82 on rotten tomatoes [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_an_unexpected_journey/

-Irfon

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Danielos
Rohan

Dec 4 2012, 9:13am

Post #173 of 237 (929 views)
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Blindfolds? [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree. The nonchalant attitude here to these worrying reviews are really irritating. I think we must prepare for an experience significantly less than the LOTR-movies.


Wordofmask
Lorien

Dec 4 2012, 9:15am

Post #174 of 237 (922 views)
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82 from RT now [In reply to] Can't Post

and I should tell you that The Avenger and X Firstclass (Both is my favorite) have 69 and 65 from metacritic then 62 is not a bad.

Yes it still has some disappoints but it's not the worst. we can expect DoS to reclaim its honor.


Mooseboy018
Gondor


Dec 4 2012, 9:26am

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Irritating? [In reply to] Can't Post

I think we're well aware that there's a good chance that the movie will be disappointing in some ways, but are we supposed to suddenly declare that this movie is a failure based on some negative reviews?

I've read quite a few of the positive ones too, and their points are just as valid. And at the very worst the movie sounds like it's "not as good as the Lord of the Rings".

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