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One Reviews Thread to Rule them all ... (EMBARGO LIFTS: 9 PM PST)
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dave_lf
Gondor

Dec 3 2012, 9:11pm

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Foiled again! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Seaborn
The Shire


Dec 3 2012, 9:12pm

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Can we have another reviews thread that is spoiler free? [In reply to] Can't Post

Instead of making half of the people abandon the forum because of the spoiler avalanche that's about to come, can we have a spoiler free thread? Are there good people around who can help by removing spoilers from reviews and posting them in a separate thread? Evil


Tim
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 9:34pm

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See? This is why... [In reply to] Can't Post


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You won't be able to put all the links in a single post, since there is a 10 minute editing window. Smile


We need a longer editing window. Wink

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Dec 3 2012, 9:37pm

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The problem with a sticky [In reply to] Can't Post

is that the replies don't show until you open the post, and they can be overlooked because, to the casual eye, there isn't anything obvious that indicates new information. We may go down the sticky route (ew - that sounds bad) - we'll see how things play out.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Balrogslunch
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 9:57pm

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A negative (but bias in my opinion) review of the hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

A review i found this morning (12 hours ago) ...which was only 2 paragraphs long but they seem to have added to it recently....He is factually incorrect about aspects of the book and well i will let you judge for yourself but to have a go at the film so much and give it 2.5 stars out of 5....i dont quite understand.....i would take it with a pince of salt tbh......

http://letterboxd.com/...-unexpected-journey/


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:05pm

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Terrible review. [In reply to] Can't Post

I have studied reviews and their effects on people's outlooks, and I've found that reviews do not exist in a vacuum (this also explains my interest in reviews and excitement in tonight's review pour).

Well-written bad reviews often correspond with audience lack of enjoyment of films. Some movies encourage biases and others don't. The fantasy genre is one that encourages biases' and the 48 FPS encourages potential negativity.

Thus, the Hobbit's bad reviews run a risk of being very poorly written and explained, much more so than other movies considering its genre and the technological jump being made. Granted, The Hobbit will also has a lot of bias since many people, filmmakers, and critics want this movie to be good, more so than other movies considering the fact it represents the biggest change to cinema since the addition of sound.

And as someone who has dealt with the RED Camera and 48 FPS tests, let me assure you, this will be incredible different to any film you've seen before.

So, I would not put so much stake in the scores of reviews or even the tomatometer for such a film (while sometime this does have value and let's not pretend like we aren't all people and love this movie and want to see other people love this movie).

But I would look at the quality of a review's logic and diction. And this review falls glaringly short in both fields.

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(This post was edited by BiggieSmaug on Dec 3 2012, 10:08pm)


Cave Troll
Rivendell

Dec 3 2012, 10:07pm

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All the main characters survive AUJ!? [In reply to] Can't Post

Spoilers please! Mad

Seriously though, that reads like a Youtube comment from a thirteen-year-old.

There are many negative reviews ahead worth worrying about but this isn't one of them.


Balrogslunch
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:10pm

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your 100percent correct [In reply to] Can't Post


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I have studied reviews and their effects on people's outlooks, and I've found that reviews do not exist in a vacuum (this also explains my interest in reviews and excitement in tonight's review pour).

Well-written bad reviews often correspond with audience lack of enjoyment of films. Some movies encourage biases and others don't. The fantasy genre is one that encourages biases' and the 48 FPS encourages potential negativity.

Thus, the Hobbit's bad reviews run a risk of being very poorly written and explained, much more so than other movies considering its genre and the technological jump being made. Granted, The Hobbit will also has a lot of bias in the field of many people, filmmakers, and critics want this movie to be good, more so than other movies considering the fact it represents the biggest change to cinema since the addition of sound.

And as someone who has dealt with the RED Camera and 48 FPS tests, let me assure you, this will be incredible different to any film you've seen before.

So, I would not put so much stake in the scores of reviews or even the tomatometer for such a film (while sometime this does have value and let's not pretend like we aren't all people and love this movie and want to see other people love this movie).

But I would look at the quality of a review's logic and diction. And this review falls glaringly short in both fields. agree totally ....the review i posted from the letterboxed site was just as you are describing! It was even shorter orginally at only 2 paragraphs long he has doubled in size his original thoughts.....he never included the rant he made about the book in the initial posting of this review.....to be honest if you dont like the book i cant see how you will have an impartial opinion of the film...



Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 10:11pm

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"What a great villain that was"... [In reply to] Can't Post

This seems to be in reference to Azog (to venture a guess), as they're discussing Orcs toward the end of the review. It seems there's a reason PJ/WB have been so secretive with this character...he's going to be the Uber-Orc! Tongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 3 2012, 10:11pm

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Whether it is right or wrong [In reply to] Can't Post

They probably assume the majority of people have read the book. It's not much of a spoiler.

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Balrogslunch
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:13pm

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sorry [In reply to] Can't Post

sorry guys i am new to this forum today i just took as read about spoilers in a review sorry....and also apologise if there are double posts (not too straightforward posting for a newbie).

I also dont think you help putting the spoiler up on the actual headline but there you go ;)


(This post was edited by Balrogslunch on Dec 3 2012, 10:15pm)


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:15pm

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So... [In reply to] Can't Post

is Azog alive???


Crunchable Birdses
Rohan


Dec 3 2012, 10:17pm

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Fortunately Adam Waldowski appears to be a complete nobody [In reply to] Can't Post

so hopefully we won't be seeing that one on RottenTomatoes.

* crunch *


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 10:22pm

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More or less...[Spoilers!!!] [In reply to] Can't Post

A bit of merchandise-related info which leaked online a while back stated that he'd be undead and stalking our heroes throughout the film, something which has been corroborated by a few early sources. Also called "The Defiler" and perhaps "The Pale Orc", Richard Armitage has also said that Azog is Thorin's nemesis.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Cave Troll
Rivendell

Dec 3 2012, 10:22pm

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Sorry too... [In reply to] Can't Post

I would edit it but I seem unable to. Frown

Personally, I don't think it's a spoiler at all which is why I think his incredulity is so silly. Smile

Perhaps he'd rather the filmmakers rewrite the book?


(This post was edited by Cave Troll on Dec 3 2012, 10:23pm)


Balrogslunch
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:27pm

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:) [In reply to] Can't Post

I think i am going stircrazy waiting for reviews/anything Hobbit related 4 hours last night trawling this boards and looking on twitter......already 2 tonight :S oh dear am i the only sad one out there ;)


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:27pm

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What??!?!??!?! [In reply to] Can't Post

WHAT?

COME AGAIN!??

YOU NEED TO PANTS TO FLY?!?!?!?!

Damn.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 10:32pm

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Actually, in retrospect perhaps we need inviso-text or something for browsers in flat mode... [In reply to] Can't Post

That seemed like kind-of a major spoiler. Tongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:36pm

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So what!? [In reply to] Can't Post

Azog is going to be haunting our group (I guess that's "Warg Scouts" and "Ancient Enemy" explanation).

Bolg is going to be chilling in Dol Goldur with Sauron? Necromancer is not going to be revealed in this movie either??

We sure we know who this guy is:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-atJfB4vzFB4/UIXjqIVhC_I/AAAAAAAAN7c/jJhvEJj8PLw/s1600/TheHobbitBolg.jpg


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 10:44pm

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That is indeed Bolg/Conan Stevens... [In reply to] Can't Post

He, Manu Bennett (Azog), and Benedict Cumberbatch (The Necromancer) are all credited as being in AUJ; but yes, Azog is apparently hunting the Dwarf Company, Bolg occupies Dol Guldur (as far as we know), and we will see the Necro is some form.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Dec 3 2012, 10:48pm)


chazychris
The Shire


Dec 3 2012, 10:44pm

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I love the podcast review [In reply to] Can't Post

These guys know basically nothing about the Tolkien universe, and have no idea how absolutely pumped their bantering is getting the real fans. That's the magic of the Jackson Middle Earth -- you can have some people who can recite entire passages from the Silmarillion go in and be taken away and transported by these movies -- and then you can have regular guys off the street, like these radio fellows, go in and be blown away by it as a movie and their first interaction with the story.
Great perspective.

"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own."
-Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 10:46pm

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Yes, their enthusiasm is promising! [In reply to] Can't Post

Sounds like the magic of LotR, where I remember people I knew who had no experience with Tolkien being similarly swept up in the films and wanting more. They seemed pleasantly surprised to have enjoyed the film that much. Wink

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Dec 3 2012, 10:47pm)


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 10:46pm

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Average joes? NOPE! [In reply to] Can't Post

Those radio fellows are famous. Opie and Anthony are both incredible radio hosts, and Jim Norton is very funny. All have really strong taste too, and their humor focuses mostly in absurdity of darkness and crude behavior.

They are good sources!


chazychris
The Shire


Dec 3 2012, 10:52pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes -- I've heard Opie and Anthony before, specifically when they have had Louis C.K. on and the latter asked Donald Rumsfeld if he was a lizard (one of the funniest things I've ever heard).

I just meant it's super exciting to hear the great enthusiasm coming from even casual fans of Middle Earth. It's a delicate line to toe -- between mass appeal and staying true to a work of depth and equally satisfying those interested in the depth of the world. PJ is one of the few who can do it so well.

"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own."
-Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)


tolktolk
Lorien

Dec 3 2012, 10:56pm

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New review on Letterboxd [In reply to] Can't Post

Four and a half stars

http://letterboxd.com/...-unexpected-journey/

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