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One Reviews Thread to Rule them all ... (EMBARGO LIFTS: 9 PM PST)
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BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 7:27pm

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One Reviews Thread to Rule them all ... (EMBARGO LIFTS: 9 PM PST) Can't Post

So here I'll be collecting all major reviews with scores upon their release at 9 PM Los Angeles time. Rather than a bunch of threads where we dig through them all looking for reviews, post them here and I'll update the main posting.

I'm thinking I'll divide reviews into sub categories: (American Press, International Press, Enthusiast/Industry Reviews). Right now all we have are enthusiast reactions. But I hope this comes across as a good idea to you all.

And it's a great distraction for me in between writing my academic journal!


(This post was edited by BiggieSmaug on Dec 3 2012, 7:30pm)


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens

Dec 3 2012, 7:29pm

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Wha time will be on Spainŋ [In reply to] Can't Post

Iīm completely lost right now about in wich time it will be here, now itīs 20:20p.m. Any clue?

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DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 3 2012, 7:33pm

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Dec 3 2012, 7:41pm)


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens

Dec 3 2012, 7:34pm

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Sorry link doesnīt work for me [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks anyway DanielWink

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shadowfaux
Bree

Dec 3 2012, 7:35pm

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Fixed link [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Hobbit+1+embargo+ends&iso=20121203T21&p1=137

Clickable


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens

Dec 3 2012, 7:42pm

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aaaaw thank you very buch! [In reply to] Can't Post

I fear I will see the reviews after workTongue

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DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 3 2012, 7:42pm

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Fixed in above message too. :-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens

Dec 3 2012, 7:43pm

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You are all so nice! [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks again DanielSmile

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DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 3 2012, 7:44pm

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Nice idea [In reply to] Can't Post

You won't be able to put all the links in a single post, since there is a 10 minute editing window. Smile

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BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 7:47pm

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Damn [In reply to] Can't Post

Then maybe posters should post reviews with title's like "Guardian's Review" or something. Oh well, we'll figure it out. Better to have all the posts in one thread though rather than 100.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 3 2012, 7:51pm

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Here's a supposed review from a NZ paper: [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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almost an hour spent introducing the dwarf company at Bilbo Baggins' (Martin Freeman) house


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE this is exaggeration. ShockedBlush

However, the good news is they really liked the film for the most part, giving it 4.5 stars out of 5:


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Given that omnipresent build-up (some might say hard sell), however, it will be hard for most to go to the film without some pre-conceptions, and it's likely many will travel to the first instalment curious about how Sir Peter Jackson will turn a 300-page novel into three films with a combined running length of nearly nine hours - this first instalment clocks in at a whopping 2 hours 45 minutes.

So is he pulling it off so far?

That's an unreserved yes from me. This film, although not without fault, is a remarkable achievement.

Shot at 48 frames per second, twice as fast as usual, The Hobbit is ground-breaking in the same way Avatar was.

Explaining 48fps is difficult. The action on screen (and there's plenty) does not look like it is moving twice as fast as normal, it is just somehow brighter, more clear cut and more fluid.

It is a visual feast. It is like watching high definition television for the first time, or a particularly lifelike video game.

Yes, it is disconcerting at first while your brain tries to figure out what is going on, and whether this looks sort of basic or really awesome, but once you just roll with it (after about 10 minutes for me), it is a whole new level of cinema watching.

The film is a giant leap in special effects, with what were sometimes, for me, rough CGI battles in the LOTR films, now smooth and real.

Academy you may as well pack the award for special effects in some bubble wrap and send it out to New Zealand now.

The Hobbit, as a children's book, is very light on character development and action sequences, so to turn a 300 page children's novel into a blockbuster perhaps required some padding.

I am sure fans of the book will enjoy seeing characters and action fleshed out a bit more, but almost an hour spent introducing the dwarf company at Bilbo Baggins' (Martin Freeman) house dragged - in the book it is two short chapters before the journey begins.

Once the adventure is under way, the viewer is back in the very familiar territory of wider Middle-earth.

And, my, how beautiful it is.

The scenery, particularly from the South Island, has to be one of the big winners in this film. It is absolutely stunning, made all the more impressive in 48fps.

One of the first major action scenes of the film is an extended chase across landscape near Middlemarch, and what a backdrop it makes - the drive to Hyde may never be the same.

Middlemarch, Wanaka, Fiordland and Twizel all feature extensively in the film.

One has to worry a little that so much CGI in some scenes might lead international viewers to question what scenery is real, but then again, the CGI eagles soaring over the Southern Alps and a thunderous mountain battle between rock giants are some of the movie's highlights.

The chamber of riddles beside the underground lake, where Bilbo Baggins meets Gollum (Andy Serkis) for the first time and gains possession of the ring, is an extraordinary sequence made even more so because it was the first scene shot in the film, and surely oscar-worthy for Serkis.

As good a piece of cinema as The Hobbit is, it is hard to see how the films are going to win new fans.

While the amazing acting, much of it from excellent New Zealand actors alongside the brilliance of Sir Ian McKellen (Gandalf the Grey) brings a film lighter in tone and funnier, it still has a similar feel to the LOTR films.

For LOTR fans it will be a very welcome return to Middle-earth, to non-fans they may still wonder what all the fuss is about.

Yes, Sir Peter, you have given us a reason to go back to the cinema.

I recommend seeing it the way the director intended (in 48fps) on the biggest screen possible, it cannot yet be replicated in your home cinema, no mater how good it is.

http://www.imdb.com/...20&p=1#207763420

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens

Dec 3 2012, 7:59pm

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I wouldnt be surprised (spoiler) [In reply to] Can't Post

If it takes so long to arrive to Bilboīs but I donīt think it will be the case, remembering some shoots from tv spots:

IT seens kikly we could see:

-Smaug attacking Erebor
-Thorin and family coming to Moria
-Azanulbizar
-More exile, as we could se here Dis and a small company of dwarves as Thorin seems to lead in a shot from one of the latest tv spots

This could be Bilbo talking about Thorin to Frodo, this would give the end of the story a real nice touch setting things clear that Thorin has a big impact on Bilbo, and Bilbo becoming some kind of Thorinīs biographer at the end... who knows

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Lindele
Gondor


Dec 3 2012, 8:06pm

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In general I could [In reply to] Can't Post

care less what jaded journalists think of the film...but this review was very heart lifting.
Not that my heart needs to be any more lifted currently! 11 days!!!!


chazychris
The Shire


Dec 3 2012, 8:09pm

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Very positive [In reply to] Can't Post

Sounds great -- and I expected the film to spend a while in Bag End prior to the journey -- think of how long it took to get out of the Shire in FotR. One thing I wonder about, since someone on Twitter said yesterday that they wanted to get to know Bilbo more early on in the film, what will the focus be on? Substantial dwarvish history, flashbacks? Very intriguing.

"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own."
-Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)


Zherkezhi
Bree


Dec 3 2012, 8:10pm

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If you take the length of the soundtrack into account ... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think that the first act will be one hour long. I guess it'll be about 30-40 minutes long (with "The Adventure Begins" not hitting the 30 minute mark and considering that not every scene will come with music).


tolktolk
Lorien

Dec 3 2012, 8:12pm

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Podcast [In reply to] Can't Post

In case it gets lost further down the board, I think this radio podcast review, posted by utku, should be included among the reviews.

http://greggtonyandjim.blogspot.com/2012/12/3-dec-2012.html


Username4242
Bree

Dec 3 2012, 8:13pm

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Would it be possible to get a lock on this? [In reply to] Can't Post

Seems that it would save quite a few unnecessary repostings.


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Dec 3 2012, 8:16pm

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It would be great to have all reviews within a single thread. [In reply to] Can't Post

You won't be able to link to them all within a single post (given the editing time-out) but you can certainly create subthreads with your suggested categories, and post reviews within those subthreads as new messages.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Carne
Tol Eressea

Dec 3 2012, 8:19pm

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Maybe a sticky for all the reviews? [In reply to] Can't Post

Even this one is going to get buried in a matter of minutes once the floodgates open.


Username4242
Bree

Dec 3 2012, 8:35pm

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Er, this should read *sticky*. [In reply to] Can't Post

So basically, the opposite of what I said. ;-)


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 8:37pm

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Why lock it? [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't get how locking it would save repostings ... that's the intended goal of having one giant thread....


dave_lf
Gondor

Dec 3 2012, 8:40pm

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Simple solution [In reply to] Can't Post

Just be sure to keep making edits to the post every nine minutes! Wink


Username4242
Bree

Dec 3 2012, 9:01pm

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"Lock it in place." Meant 'sticky.' ;-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


BiggieSmaug
The Shire

Dec 3 2012, 9:03pm

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Oh... [In reply to] Can't Post

Got it! Sticky would be cool.


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 3 2012, 9:07pm

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It's 10 minutes from the original posting [In reply to] Can't Post

Not from the last edit. Wink

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