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Smaug's colour

chris10112
Bree

Nov 30 2012, 2:39pm

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Is anyone slightly worried that in the (albeit low-quality) TV spot, Smaug's wing seems to be black?

Would PJ?


Beeromir
The Shire


Nov 30 2012, 2:44pm

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I just posted a similar topic. [In reply to] Can't Post

My theory is that he's black or grey, but then smelts dwarven gold onto himself after claiming Erebor. It would be a scene that highlights Smaug's vanity and helps to explain his greed for gold. Smaug's "motivation" needs to be fleshed out for him to be an effective character rather than just another Boss that our heroes have to defeat.


dave_lf
Gondor

Nov 30 2012, 2:52pm

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Aw geez [In reply to] Can't Post

They probably would take "Smaug the Golden" literally.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 30 2012, 2:55pm

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He's a dragon, and is therefore naturally greedy. [In reply to] Can't Post

Why do they need to give him a motivation? It's all self-explanatory, no?

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utku
Rivendell


Nov 30 2012, 2:56pm

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sounds incredible [In reply to] Can't Post

He destructs his own body to cover it with gold because of his greed. It's almost psychotic and if done right, that would probably make him one of the most memorable villains in cinema.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 30 2012, 3:03pm

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The jewels become embedded in his skin anyway [In reply to] Can't Post

Doesn't it have the same impact?

I agree that Smaug melting down the gold would be incredible. But it's not him. Why make all the effort? He sits on it all day anyway.

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utku
Rivendell


Nov 30 2012, 3:11pm

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It seems more dramatic this way. [In reply to] Can't Post

I always thought they were stuck to his skin because he sat on them for too long, which is actually silly when you think about it. Smile And no, I don't think it has the same impact. I mean if they just became glued to his skin over time that would make him stupid for not noticing. It still works for the sake of irony but if he has done that to himself that's just more dramatic I think.


(This post was edited by utku on Nov 30 2012, 3:13pm)


Arthael
Lorien


Nov 30 2012, 3:22pm

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No [In reply to] Can't Post

Because he's not greedy for wealth, he's greedy for shiny rocks (Smaugcares little for the monetary value, the narrator tells us). Not nearly enough motivation to ground a 9 hour story ;)

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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 30 2012, 3:26pm

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Hmmm [In reply to] Can't Post

We will have to agree to disagree. I like the idea, but it just doesn't fit with the story (in my opinion).

Smile

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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 30 2012, 3:27pm

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But regardless, his motivation is because he's greedy? [In reply to] Can't Post

Whether that be for monetary value, or just a nice pile of gold.

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utku
Rivendell


Nov 30 2012, 3:31pm

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I can see... [In reply to] Can't Post

Why you (and if true, probably a lot of the folks would as well) think it's not a good thing, and you are absolutely right: it's not just a minor detail different from the book, the whole character may change with it but I guess I just loved the idea too much. Smile


Lightice
Lorien

Nov 30 2012, 3:36pm

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Duh [In reply to] Can't Post


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Is anyone slightly worried that in the (albeit low-quality) TV spot, Smaug's wing seems to be black?

Would PJ?


They are in shade. It's dark, Smaug's figure is contrasted against the bright flames. Ofcourse he appears dark next to them.


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Nov 30 2012, 3:47pm

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If you saw the Comic-Con version of the blog that was taken down, [In reply to] Can't Post

You saw the inside of Erebor, with heaps of gold coins, diamond and what not, not melted together, but separate.

Just wanted to inform you guys ;)

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imin
Valinor


Nov 30 2012, 3:51pm

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Good [In reply to] Can't Post

I am not a fan of the melting idea. Just not Smaug.

Also i havent seen the clip with Smaug, but surely its just a shadow like others have said? this is over analyzing even for me, lol.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 30 2012, 4:00pm

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Melted? I must've missed that. [In reply to] Can't Post

I assume some has melted because of the heat.

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 30 2012, 9:33pm

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That's vlog was amazing! [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't wait to see all those scenes in whatever film they end up in.

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