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Has 3D caused PJ to kill the Middle Earth "experience"?

SteveDJ
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Nov 26 2012, 6:39pm


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I'm going to mention something from the recent Vlog #9, so if that will be a spoiler you don't want - go back now.

Ok, first off - I'm just as excited as everyone else here about the arrival of The Hobbit movie. I've got my midnight tickets and everything! I still cannot wait for Dec 14. To this day, I can still sit and watch the entire trilogy, EE style, and become fully immersed in Middle Earth. Even high "action" sequences are still fully realistic -- the creature at the entrance to the mines of Moria, and the fight with the cave troll inside -- the battle sequences, both at Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith (ok, Legolas' Oliphant sequence stretched a little, but still doesn't take me out of the moment). Everything that happens all still seemed to keep just enough realism to keep me immersed in the experience, immersed in Middle Earth.

But... In the vlog #9, I saw something now that genuinely concerns me. It was just a clip being put together on their computers. Something involving some of the dwarves falling, or sliding, down some ... vertical? ... cave? ... passageway? (Not sure what to call it.) But the computer guys were making sound effects as they played it, and mentioning how cool it would look in 3D, or that they 'had to' do that for the 3D.

What did I see? I saw something that I don't think is real anymore. I saw something that looked more like a cartoon. I saw a scene that suddenly reminded me of something in the second Indiana Jones movie (Temple of Doom) involving a ridiculous roller-coaster mine cart sequence. I saw something that looks like it would break the laws of physics. I saw something that, while it might indeed be "cool", and "amazing" to watch (in 3D, no less), but that on repeated viewings is likely to stretch my believability. People cannot take that kind of physical damage or abuse, and just walk away (but, cartoon characters can) - but I sense that is happening here. And if here, in one scene, then how many other places will it happen too? (Remember the first trailer with multiple endings? Having a troll crash down on you from a likely great height, and you can still get up and walk away --- hmmm...)

So my concern now is that we will end up with a movie that - while being a wonderful adaptation of the book and all - won't stand up to the same level of repeat viewings with the ability to repeat pulling me into a fully immersed Middle Earth experience.

Back to my original subject then -- I have to wonder how much of these 'fanciful' action sequences are due to the use of 3D?


(This post was edited by SteveDJ on Nov 26 2012, 6:40pm)

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Has 3D caused PJ to kill the Middle Earth "experience"? SteveDJ Send a private message to SteveDJ Nov 26 2012, 6:39pm
    have to wait and see... elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Nov 26 2012, 6:55pm
        To that, I absolutely agree SteveDJ Send a private message to SteveDJ Nov 26 2012, 8:55pm
    Remember shadowdog Send a private message to shadowdog Nov 26 2012, 6:55pm
    Please don't worry over this Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 26 2012, 6:58pm
        I forget about that bridge fall everytime... elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Nov 26 2012, 7:01pm
            I once knew a coroner who couldn't get into Boromir's death scene Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 26 2012, 7:04pm
                That tag line sounds like the lead in to a great joke elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Nov 26 2012, 7:08pm
                Whereas a nurse who used to post on TORN Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Nov 26 2012, 7:52pm
                That's interesting... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Nov 26 2012, 8:27pm
                    I personally don't have any problems with the scene Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 26 2012, 8:37pm
                        Ditto. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Nov 26 2012, 9:03pm
                LotR physics weren't a problem for me, either SteveDJ Send a private message to SteveDJ Nov 26 2012, 9:27pm
        Please make LOTR in 3D too! Danielos Send a private message to Danielos Nov 26 2012, 7:06pm
            I was thoroughly unimpressed with Titanic in 3D myself Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 26 2012, 7:11pm
            Post-converted 2D into 3D is only crap! SteveDJ Send a private message to SteveDJ Nov 26 2012, 9:18pm
                I gave Cameron a chance... Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 26 2012, 10:01pm
                    I for one thought Titanic's 3D conversion was a job well done. // Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Nov 26 2012, 10:16pm
        Collapsing stairs and plummeting wizards spring to mind. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 26 2012, 8:29pm
    No Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Nov 26 2012, 6:59pm
    It reminded me of the fall of the Balrog - classic PJ, if you ask me // Zherkezhi Send a private message to Zherkezhi Nov 26 2012, 7:13pm
    Wait untill we get the corpse, before you start burying it! // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 26 2012, 7:58pm
        Bring out your dead! // Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Nov 26 2012, 9:08pm
    Am I right in saying ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 26 2012, 8:10pm
        I once joked that the Company would escape Goblintown through the Great Goblins DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 26 2012, 8:34pm
            I wish you hadn't told me that, Daniel, ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Nov 26 2012, 8:47pm
                Awful, isn't it? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 26 2012, 9:14pm
                    It's almost certainly the part when they are captured by goblins totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 27 2012, 6:33am
                        This seems reasonable, I suppose. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 27 2012, 8:13am
                            It's in the concept-art as well Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 27 2012, 8:48am
                        I figured it was the escape dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 27 2012, 1:38pm
                            Ha no, definitely the capture Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 27 2012, 1:50pm
                                I am obviously missing out by not having this book! // dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 27 2012, 3:21pm
                                    Oh no it's rubbish. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 27 2012, 3:32pm
            Becarefull of what you wish... Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Nov 26 2012, 9:00pm
    I have to tell you, 3D gimmicks are the last thing I am worried about. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 27 2012, 12:01am
    Anything 3D will be awesome in my book sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Nov 27 2012, 2:21am
        Mehh... I'll have to kindly disagree jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Nov 27 2012, 2:59am
            I agree some but disagree some sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Nov 28 2012, 1:37am

 
 
 

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