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The names of the other two...

Elthir
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Nov 25 2012, 4:16pm


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... again I don't call them the Blue Wizards as Tolkien seems to later doubt that they had distinctive colours (letter 211).

But Rómestámo, Morinehtar, Rómestar, Alatar, Pallando -- are all Quenya, which to my mind suggests that they are external variations (Tolkien trying to come up with a Quenya name for each wizard), instead of internal variations, like the names of Gandalf in various languages, from various places.


There's also a notable gap in years between the text with the names Alatar and Pallando -- and the other three names, and Christopher Tolkien implies that his father possibly could not find the earlier text -- which might mean he couldn't remember the earlier names, and so he invented new ones.

So Olorin/Gandalf is not the same (in my opinion) as these alternate draft names for the other two wizards -- which look to me more like Tolkien trying to invent a Quenya name for each wizard at different points in the external timeline.

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Wizards iandea14 Send a private message to iandea14 Nov 24 2012, 4:57pm
    Millions! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 24 2012, 5:04pm
        "If ever-a-wever" :D Ethel Duath Send a private message to Ethel Duath Nov 25 2012, 3:42am
        Why don't the blue wizards have two names? sherlock Send a private message to sherlock Nov 25 2012, 11:05am
            They do, I just could t remember them. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 25 2012, 11:12am
                The names of the other two... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Nov 25 2012, 4:16pm
    well... let me see... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 24 2012, 5:38pm
    I would say in Middle-earth... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Nov 25 2012, 12:27am
    5 that we know of Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 25 2012, 1:44pm

 
 
 

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