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Aragalen the Green
Mithlond


Nov 24 2012, 7:58pm

Post #101 of 159 (2557 views)
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Theoden was a dotard, [In reply to] Can't Post

until Gandalf released him from Sarumans/Grima's influence.

I do get your point that most of what we've seen of Radagast is comedic, except perhaps when he is caring for the sick hedghog. That's why I (the eternal optimist) am looking forward to other characterizations of Radagast, more than the few seconds that have been shown.

I also like when you mentioned "Gandy's not demeaning Raddy doesn't really tell us anything about the Brown Wizard, it simply tells us about Gandy." Gandalf hesitates to outrightly criticize Saruman until he is imprisoned and escapes, although he had personal doubts.


Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.
"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Nov 24 2012, 8:05pm

Post #102 of 159 (2623 views)
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You know, appearances can be misleading. [In reply to] Can't Post

A foolish-seeming exterior does not necessarily mean a foolish mind. All the wizards have their eccentricities (Gandalf's is pipeweed and hobbits, Saruman's is "metal and wheels"). Radagast's eccentricities show more on the surface and Saruman may have made a judgment that would seem accurate on first glance, but I expect we'll be shown something more than mere eccentricity in Radagast.

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Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Nov 24 2012, 9:03pm

Post #103 of 159 (2496 views)
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It's near the end. [In reply to] Can't Post

At 12:42, as Dave opens the door into Theatre Two, you hear a booming voice say "Well, look who it is!" Then it cuts to a shot of a surly Thorin looking up. We're assuming that the voice is that of the Great Goblin during the scene when the dwarves are first brought before him.

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TheRealBeren
Ossiriand

Nov 24 2012, 9:10pm

Post #104 of 159 (2632 views)
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Smaug's attack on Erebor [In reply to] Can't Post

Epic prologue scene at 9:38, can't wait for it. I had Skyrim flashbacks when I first saw it.


(This post was edited by TheRealBeren on Nov 24 2012, 9:11pm)


ShireHorse
Nargothrond

Nov 24 2012, 9:11pm

Post #105 of 159 (2541 views)
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In a long interview [In reply to] Can't Post

in the French magazine, L'Ecran Fantastique, Armitage states that Orcrist glows blue. So we didn't imagine it, LOL!


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Nov 24 2012, 9:25pm

Post #106 of 159 (2547 views)
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Is it online anywhere? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not surprised if Orcrist glows blue, and Glamdring doesn't; since Orcrist is a similar design to Sting. Looks like they've got rid of the "mate" connection.

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Gorgori
Lindon

Nov 24 2012, 10:16pm

Post #107 of 159 (2443 views)
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I just noticed that too... [In reply to] Can't Post

I just commented on that in another thread before reading this one...

Its quite clearly Balin, isn't it?


totoro
Menegroth

Nov 24 2012, 10:55pm

Post #108 of 159 (2495 views)
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It is nt [In reply to] Can't Post


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I just commented on that in another thread before reading this one...

Its quite clearly Balin, isn't it?



imin
Doriath


Nov 24 2012, 10:55pm

Post #109 of 159 (2388 views)
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Hopefully it will rain when raddy is out and about in ME and wash the poo away, appalling design choice // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


totoro
Menegroth

Nov 24 2012, 10:57pm

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I love the poo [In reply to] Can't Post

My kids really got it that Raddy loved his birds so much that he refused to take the nest off his head until they were safe and grown. Until then, the poo would have to wait.

It also makes it quite clear that what Raddy cares about and what the rest of us care about are on completely different levels. We don't like poo in our hair. Raddy has more important things to worry about. Smile


imin
Doriath


Nov 24 2012, 11:24pm

Post #111 of 159 (2406 views)
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I'm sorry but you can love birds [In reply to] Can't Post

and even have them in your hair but not have their lunch running down your face.

Its just a bad bad design choice which adds nothing to the character and actually takes away from him.

Other than that though, i think he looks great, its just a shame they seem to go too far sometimes.


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Nov 24 2012, 11:29pm

Post #112 of 159 (2442 views)
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Even if he is a little eccentric? [In reply to] Can't Post

To be honest, the poo doesn't bother me. I still see Doctor Who under the make up, rather than Radagast. That's more frustrating for me.

But does the poo match his eccentricities? Possibly. Think of all those crazy dog and cat people in real life, with god knows what smeared on their clothes.Crazy

Or perhaps the poo is some weird plot detail - it might deflect goblin arrows, it's that crusty!

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Aragalen the Green
Mithlond


Nov 24 2012, 11:35pm

Post #113 of 159 (2386 views)
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Oh perfect!! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.
"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."


imin
Doriath


Nov 24 2012, 11:42pm

Post #114 of 159 (2293 views)
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Yep, even with being eccentric [In reply to] Can't Post

Its just stupid, lol.

For me it kinda encapsulates the worst of what PJ and co do with the films - i know it may sound like im blowing it out of proportion but thats just because i feel they get so much right, that when its wrong it sticks out.

I mean who thinks it genuinely looks good? It just doesnt, most have to just put up with it.

Like i said, i hope the rain comes and washes it away or they just film from his other side. For me it really takes away from the overall look of the character and potentially reduces him as i am just sat there thinking, why didnt he wipe his face? It is just really not needed.

i honestly hate it. Do i hate it more than the axe - hmm tough choice there, lol.

PJ if you can hear me, digitally remove it from every single scene and i will love you forever! Tongue


Elessar
Doriath


Nov 24 2012, 11:44pm

Post #115 of 159 (2393 views)
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The poo [In reply to] Can't Post

It doesn't bother me either. Do I think it might be a little much? Sure but its not something I'm finding an issue to look past. I've not seen but 1 episode of Dr. Who so that isn't an issue for me. Which sounds like may be a good thing.

In the end I want to see how the character plays out since really he's very bit part in the world of Middle-earth.



imin
Doriath


Nov 24 2012, 11:54pm

Post #116 of 159 (2402 views)
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Well it bothers you to some extent [In reply to] Can't Post

as you say its a little much, lol.

But i dont want this thread to be about the poo, it should be about the fantastic vlog as it really was fantastic and it even stopped me thinking about how he has poo all over his face.

I just want to run over with an azo wipe and clean it off!


ShireHorse
Nargothrond

Nov 24 2012, 11:55pm

Post #117 of 159 (2457 views)
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Here's the interview in L'Ecran Fantastique. [In reply to] Can't Post

It has been partially translated and the question about weapons is currently near the end. Scroll down to #3 and click on "partial translation". The whole thing is very insightful.

http://www.richardarmitagenet.com/

RA's English responses have been translated into French and then back into English but he does seem to say that Orcrist "glows".


Elessar
Doriath


Nov 24 2012, 11:58pm

Post #118 of 159 (2352 views)
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It does a little [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, it is a little so I can understand the dislike I'm choosing to ignore it and enjoy the rest of a fantastic design.

The Vlog was great and I'm finally getting my youtube saver site so I can add this one to the collection because like the rest its just so great to see the process of bringing Middle-earth to life once again on the big screen.



imin
Doriath


Nov 25 2012, 12:07am

Post #119 of 159 (2323 views)
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yeah i was mostly just pulling your leg :P [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the rest of Radagasts design is very good, wizard like but distinctive enough from gandalf and saruman.

As for the vlog although they are all excellent, i think this one could be the best yet (though i said that for vlog 8 as well, haha).

The scene at the beginning looked 3d, even on my crappy laptop!


Elessar
Doriath


Nov 25 2012, 12:40am

Post #120 of 159 (2242 views)
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Its all good. [In reply to] Can't Post

I know. lol

Each one does get better and better. I will say the one with scenes from comic-con does make me smile a bit since I was in the room when that was going on.

That was a crystal clear looking scene for sure.



TheSexyBeard
Menegroth

Nov 25 2012, 12:45am

Post #121 of 159 (2349 views)
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Amazing [In reply to] Can't Post

Was great to see the various departments and stages of post production. And as a student who is currently studying animation, I now have a rough idea of what my future may hold. Tongue

Some great shots, but in a way I feel I may have seen to much. Dwarf combat looks very intricate, almost mechanincal in the way they coperate with one another, IMO I feel this goes well with thier love of craft and weapons.

Yes, my username is terrible.


whitetree
Lindon


Nov 25 2012, 1:33am

Post #122 of 159 (2224 views)
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I'm so glad you said that... [In reply to] Can't Post

...and so glad it was included in the video blog, because the orchestra should not be taken for granted!

They have trained for many years to be able to walk in, sit down, and sight-read perfectly - first time, every time - whatever changes come in, cuts are made, etc. It takes tremendous concentration and skill to do that stuff.

I heard a radio interview with Howard Shore where he said he was very familiar with the London Philharmonic before working with them on LOTR, and in fact he wrote that music specifically for THOSE players. That's a little like writing a line or a role for a specific actor - you can hear them saying it, you know how it will sound.

And in the video blog, the score playing behind the Music portion was subly building, slowly preparing us, and then - Trombones! I loved that part...Smile


Pousette
Ossiriand


Nov 25 2012, 2:25am

Post #123 of 159 (2335 views)
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Also... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I'm very certain it's Ken Stott. Wonder what young Dwalin will look like, if he's there when Smaug comes. (And will we get to see a piece of dragon?!)


xxxyyy
Nargothrond

Nov 25 2012, 2:42am

Post #124 of 159 (2213 views)
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Glamdring and Orcrist don't glow, am I right? [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, Glamdring I'm pretty sure, but even Orcrist. Someone said it glowed, so I was pretty concerned. Looking carefully, it just seems a reflection of blue light; there's a frame with half the blade with light and half without, that means light doesn't come from the sword.
Only Sting needs to glow, and it does indeed... I guess when they fix the "bad" CGI in LOTR, they will add some blue light on it...

http://energyfromthorium.com/


painjoiker
Hithlum


Nov 25 2012, 3:00am

Post #125 of 159 (2205 views)
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How can someone have doubt, when the characters face was so clearly shown? [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, he wears different clothes, but it's still Balin... Wink

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