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Thror did it deliberately.

Fardragon
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Nov 23 2012, 8:49am


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Thror did it deliberately. [In reply to] Can't Post

He was kingdomless and dying, so he set out to get himself killed in such a way that would provoke a war.

Goblins hate dwarves. Just quietly killing him and hiding the body was never going to happen.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

(This post was edited by Fardragon on Nov 23 2012, 8:53am)

Subject User Time
The Problem with Superflously Altering Azanulbizar and all that lead to it. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 1:32am
    Appendices Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 1:50am
        Agreed. That actually describes it very well, save that in some ways they have even tampered (it seems) withthe core structure. And its more than annoying AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 2:47am
            Excellent story Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 5:16pm
        Which is incredibly frustrating DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 23 2012, 8:42am
            That's what I'm saying Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 5:18pm
    I'm almost afraid to ask... Avnar Send a private message to Avnar Nov 23 2012, 3:07am
        There are lots of rumours based on comments by the film crew and in books AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 3:36am
            Why why why why?? Avnar Send a private message to Avnar Nov 23 2012, 5:41am
            These are terrible changes indeed... I'm really really saddened by them... Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Nov 23 2012, 5:50am
                I know what you mean. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 6:45am
                    That's how I feel. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 23 2012, 7:58am
                        Well stated. I completely agree. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 8:44am
            I don’t think the changes to the dwarven history will be as drastic as some fear. Bladerunner Send a private message to Bladerunner Nov 23 2012, 6:33am
                I hope you are right. N.T Avnar Send a private message to Avnar Nov 23 2012, 6:45am
                I also hope you are correct about some of this AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 6:49am
                Unfortunately it does... :-( Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 23 2012, 8:38am
                    OK this Thrain being lost in Khazadum thing is really quite infuriating ...... sad face.. Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Nov 23 2012, 9:23am
                    If that is the only change Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 4:40pm
                        It's not a better story Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 5:01pm
                            It is a MUCH better story. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 6:49pm
                                "goblins are not lions" Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 7:09pm
                                    Gandalf did say he pitied even Sauron's slaves. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 7:40pm
                        I am actually hoping the report I heard was wrong, but the quote AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 6:30pm
    Really? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 7:48am
        Whatever would have been expected, it was justification, not excuse. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 8:42am
            Thror did it deliberately. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 8:49am
                Thror was half mad. His devestating circumstances and his Ring had driven him AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 9:24am
                    They would have found some other excuse. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 9:27am
                        If the dwarves could have found another excuse for starting the war... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 23 2012, 12:24pm
                            I'm not sure it is quite as complicated as that. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 23 2012, 2:04pm
                                True, that's a possibility. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 23 2012, 2:28pm
                                This is what I would imagine. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 3:41pm
                                    That depends... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 23 2012, 4:05pm
                                        Not me. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 4:12pm
                                            I think most people with beloved family and friends would understand revenge quite well AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 6:24pm
                                                AO I hate to pause you mid flow but Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 23 2012, 7:51pm
                                                    Just rumors Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 23 2012, 11:34pm
                                                        Thank goodness we'll know Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 11:37pm
                        Begging your pardon, but they didn't get Moria back, even though they won the battle. Goblins didn't drive The Dwarves from Moria. A Balrog did. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 23 2012, 5:40pm
    PJ did originally film Sauron vs Aragorn in ROTK.. irodino Send a private message to irodino Nov 23 2012, 8:21am
    Here's another likely scenario both true to the book and what we have heard so far Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 23 2012, 1:58pm
        Possible, but still not as good Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 4:44pm

 
 
 

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