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Stuff.co.nz confirms a very SPOILER dwarf!
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spymaster@theonering.net

Nov 20 2012, 3:00pm

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Stuff.co.nz confirms a very SPOILER dwarf! Can't Post

An article this morning on Stuff.co.nz ostensibly about some some custom jewellry that will grace the red carpet next week at the Hobbit Premiere has also dropped a bombshell confirmation about something we've wondered about since Peter Jackson's sixth Vlog. If you don't want the spoiler, don't head below the cut!

Odette Anscombe-Smith has created three custom pieces for her friend Carolynne Cunningham, who is a producer and assistant director on The Hobbit.

Cunningham will choose one, and the others could well be worn by stars of the movie.

"I wanted to make something that had unknown origins - something that could have been made by elves, could have been made by dwarves . . . something a dragon would covet," she said.

"Some of this inspiration might have been drawn from her time as a featured extra in the Hobbit films - as a dwarf woman, complete with beard."

WOW!

Still doesn't tell us when the lady dwarf (or dwarves) will make an appearance, but we now know they will at some point.

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Nov 20 2012, 8:36pm

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spoiler... [In reply to] Can't Post

Dwarf women and children confirmed in the Movie Guide Smile

Hope we get to see them in the first movie.


(This post was edited by Ataahua on Nov 20 2012, 8:50pm)


Demosthenes
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Nov 20 2012, 8:39pm

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gah. i haven't read those at all so i was blindsided. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 8:44pm

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Still nice to see more confirmation :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

I imagine The wives of Bombur and Gloin will get the most screen time, so any props might be for them?

I just hope they don't have fuller beards than some of the company!

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 20 2012, 8:55pm

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Well if they have less than Kili [In reply to] Can't Post

Then they have none at all!

I'm very excited to see the dwarf women. They've always been kind of fascinating.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 20 2012, 8:58pm

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Dale before the coming of Smaug... [In reply to] Can't Post

We saw what looked to be Dwarf women in the background on the pre-devastation Dale set. We don't know if that will be featured in the flashback at Bag End, or whether it could be part of building up Bard's backhistory, in the DoS...


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DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 9:08pm

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You count Kili as a Dwarf?! [In reply to] Can't Post

Wink

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Avnar
Lorien


Nov 20 2012, 9:14pm

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I hate the idea... [In reply to] Can't Post

...of dwarf women having beards. Hate it! Mad


Oleander Took
Rivendell


Nov 20 2012, 9:20pm

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Always wondered [In reply to] Can't Post

who were all those women (and a couple of little girls) sitting between the main actors during the Start of Filming Ceremony we saw in the 1st VLog, remember them?.
Now it's safe to assume that at least some of them were some of this dwarf women Smile

"There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something."


jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 20 2012, 9:22pm

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I kind of hate the idea of dwarf women in general [In reply to] Can't Post

It's the one flaw of that particular race. How do you present dwarf women with beards and have it not be a walking joke? Even though it's not really a joke, it would certainly become one because of how ridiculous it looks. I'm definitely hoping the films prove me wrong on this issue.

No wonder Gimli and Kili are going for the elf women.

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


Demosthenes
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Nov 20 2012, 9:23pm

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thought (spoiler) [In reply to] Can't Post


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I imagine The wives of Bombur and Gloin will get the most screen time, so any props might be for them?

I just hope they don't have fuller beards than some of the company!


Is that scene of Gloin with the keepsake box a hint? Seems more likely to be a lady dwarf...

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DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 9:28pm

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Yup [In reply to] Can't Post

The movie guide confirmed that Gloin carries around a picture of his wife and son.

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 20 2012, 9:31pm

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Why!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Why couldn't they keep Aiden's natural beard!? It looked so dwarven.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 9:32pm

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Some human females are naturally hairy [In reply to] Can't Post

Many females shave their facial hair. And you only have to go back 100 thousand years for all humans to be hairy. I don't think it's that ridiculous. It is anatomically likely, after all.Smile

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Kassandros
Rohan


Nov 20 2012, 9:32pm

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Awesome! [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope they pull this off well, though I think it'd work better if all the male dwarves had big beards. Nothing wrong at all with making facial hair not sexually dimorphic in dwarves. I just hope it's not treated as a joke. At very least, I hope the dwarves consider facial hair to be normal and attractive on females in a serious manner. We'll see.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kassandros
Rohan


Nov 20 2012, 9:35pm

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Western society has a hair phobia, to be honest [In reply to] Can't Post

Over the last couple hundred years, and especially over the last twenty years, Western society (especially American) has developed an extreme distate for any and all body hair. Not going to go into details on a family-friendly website, but PJ&co will have to consider this. On the other hand, for men, facial hair has been somewhat more in fashion recently, so that might help.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 20 2012, 9:43pm

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I don't remember Gloin's wife having a beard in that picture...// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Carne
Tol Eressea

Nov 20 2012, 9:46pm

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These are dwarves after all [In reply to] Can't Post

Plus it will probably be more like big sideburns as opposed to full beards.


Kassandros
Rohan


Nov 20 2012, 9:49pm

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Can we call it an inverse goatee? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 9:52pm

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See page 41 of the visual companion [In reply to] Can't Post


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However, he carries a portrait of his young son and his wife - an acclaimed beauty with a fine beard - with him at all times.


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Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 20 2012, 10:01pm

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Fair enough... [In reply to] Can't Post

But I was trying to find the still with Gloin and the photo frame. I seem to remember neither drawing had beards and initially people wondered who the picture were of...

This is all I've found so far, but you can only see the left-hand drawing:

http://i.imgur.com/KcFSm.jpg

I'll keep looking...


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort






jimmyfenn
Rohan


Nov 20 2012, 10:04pm

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girls! [In reply to] Can't Post

in the article it also mentions miranda kerr, maybe irrelevant but it could hint at her being in the film as either an elf or dwarf women ??

for quickbeam often laughed, he laughed if the sun came out from behind a cloud, he laughed if they came upon a stream or spring:


DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 10:08pm

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I don't remember seeing both pictures, but valid point. [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps this is Gimli, pre-beard?Unimpressed

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Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 20 2012, 10:13pm

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Yeah, perhaps I am mis-remembering both pictures being visible... [In reply to] Can't Post

As you say, it could be Gimli...but there's nothing distingishing about it to make the connection with it being a Dwarf obvious...Unimpressed


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort






Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 20 2012, 10:16pm

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Sum History about Hair.. [In reply to] Can't Post

During WW1 (JRRT was in)
Lice &thingigies were such a Nuscence
since in the Trenches for Weeks.
On End
no showering..
"Smelly stinking Trench's."

So for the First time in History
It became nesscessary to
have Short Hair.

By WW2 crewCuts was the only.
WAY..

Not until the Beatle's invasion..
Was...aMOPTop.
OKAY

Bomby is certain DwarveWomen will.
Have DelightFull Beard's(Beads Jewelled etc.)

Peter King &Department
will Change everything
Just like Peter Jackson...

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