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Talking animals and trolls in the movies
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SauonWasHere
The Shire

Nov 20 2012, 10:24am

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Talking animals and trolls in the movies Can't Post

I don't see any evidence of this in the trailer, will we see animals talking and trolls talking?

Thanks!


Welsh hero
Gondor


Nov 20 2012, 10:26am

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Trolls talk [In reply to] Can't Post

and I assume the animals talk in their own language.

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 20 2012, 10:31am

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The Trolls have to talk [In reply to] Can't Post

So that Gandalf throws his voice
and delays their Meal.

Birds need to talk
so The Thrush
aids Bard.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 20 2012, 10:36am

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The 3 Trolls are voiced by: [In reply to] Can't Post

Bert - Mark Hadlow
William - Peter Hambleton
Tom - William Kircher

And we know that both the spiders and wargs will speak.

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SauonWasHere
The Shire

Nov 20 2012, 10:36am

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Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, IF they keep these parts in from the book.

They may not- what I';m saying is do we have proof from the trailer or TV spots that it's likely to go the way that you think it will?

Why so certain Bombadil,
of this,
are you?

(I tried)


Dlanor da Great
Rivendell


Nov 20 2012, 10:40am

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We have already seen evidence of the trolls talking in one of the foriegn tv spots [In reply to] Can't Post

and i believe peter alluded to Wargs having their own special way of comunicating. Maybe this carries over into other animals as well.


SauonWasHere
The Shire

Nov 20 2012, 10:41am

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Yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

Awesome guys, thanks!

So stoked for AUEJ!!!!!!!!!!


squitzl
The Shire

Nov 20 2012, 10:51am

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Where did you find that info? \\ [In reply to] Can't Post

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 20 2012, 10:52am

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Sources [In reply to] Can't Post

Link to international trailer, with Trolls speaking.

Quote from Dec 2012 Empire Hobbit special:


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"The spiders will speak more as a psychic communication", adds Jackson of Mirkwood's nest of arachnids (now in film two). "Only Bilbo hears them."


And at some point, it was confirmed the Wargs will speak in their own wolfish language.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 20 2012, 10:53am

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From the new Movie Guide and Visual Companion. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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squitzl
The Shire

Nov 20 2012, 10:57am

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Ah cool \\ [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 20 2012, 11:21am

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Thank you Daniel ..many of us have thought... [In reply to] Can't Post

That since we have such an extensive Cast
with VO experience..

Many
also auditioned their voices Too!

Right On! BUDDY
Beyond... East of the Great
Pond...

Bomby&(Goldberry too!)


TheHutt
Gondor


Nov 20 2012, 11:39am

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The purse won't talk... [In reply to] Can't Post

As for the trolls - we heard them already.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 20 2012, 11:45am

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And what a shame it is :-( / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 20 2012, 12:40pm

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Don't worry... [In reply to] Can't Post

In an alternate universe somewhere, The Hobbit came out today and it included the talking purse! You're telling everyone "Told ya so".

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"

(This post was edited by jtarkey on Nov 20 2012, 12:41pm)


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Nov 20 2012, 1:22pm

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I think Daniel and I should move to that dimension! [In reply to] Can't Post

Sounds like a much better place to be Wink

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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 20 2012, 1:35pm

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Agreed! [In reply to] Can't Post

As long as only purses talk. I wouldn't want a talking fridge, or talking toilet paper. It could get messy ...

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Nov 20 2012, 1:43pm)


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Nov 20 2012, 2:27pm

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Everything else is the same! [In reply to] Can't Post

The only difference is that the purse talks in the movie Wink

Vocalist in the semi-progressive metal band Arctic Eclipse


Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 20 2012, 3:38pm

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Okay!. thiz gets Curious-er & Curious-er..So Who VOs. [In reply to] Can't Post

 Gwahir
The Thrush
Beorn's..... "Wait-tron-Units"...
Wargs
Captain Spider
or
Raddy's Birdseyzzz?

Let the speculating begin.............?

Bomby&(Goldberry too)


Lightice
Lorien

Nov 20 2012, 4:49pm

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Well, there's some info out there [In reply to] Can't Post

According to Empire, the spiders don't talk in English, but Bilbo understands what they are saying because of the Ring. The trolls just plain talk regularly, while the wargs apparently have a rudimentary growling language written for them, if I remember some references correctly.


Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 20 2012, 4:51pm

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The thrush [In reply to] Can't Post

doesn't speak English in the book. Bard understands thrush-language. Given how elvish has been debt with, I think it most likely the thrush will get subtitles.

Beorn's servants don't speak.

It's been confirmed that wargs will only speak wargish in the movie.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Rolfina
Rivendell


Nov 20 2012, 5:19pm

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Beorn's servants don't speak [In reply to] Can't Post

But they walk on their hindlegs and serve food with their paws/hoofs. By far my least favourite scene in the books. I don't like creepy servant animals. Unsure


xMb
The Shire

Nov 20 2012, 6:41pm

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Imagine the field day PETA would have... [In reply to] Can't Post

If PJ forced dogs to walk upright and serve food off trays?....


Tongue


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 20 2012, 6:55pm

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They've probably been replaced with Radagast's animals. [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't imagine they'd have two similar characters (loners) with animal servants.

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wendy woo
Rivendell


Nov 21 2012, 4:03am

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This came up some time ago in another thread, [In reply to] Can't Post

 and I'm glad I'm not the ONLY person who thought it was weird. Although I liked Beorn, the part about the animals was neither enchanting nor amusing, it was just strange, in my opinion.

You'll see that in every contract. It's called a "sanity clause".
Ha-ha. You can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Claus.

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