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BeornBerserker
Lorien

Nov 17 2012, 9:53pm

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I just received the AUJ visual guide to which Martin Freeman wrote the forward. Every interview or movie clip or something like this forward making me happier that he was chosen for the role. In the forward his feelings of the honor and privilege to play Bilbo in Tolkien's work clearly show. He comments on what a huge project(2+ years at least for him) and how the scope and scale is beyond anything he thought he might work or will work on again. He also seems in awe of the work and craftsmanship that went into the designs, sets, and props and the overall passion and enthusiasm of the project.

Whatever else these movies bring, I am predicting his part in it will almost be universally praised and liked.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 9:56pm

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theres an interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

british film called Wild Target, with MF and the lovely Emily Blunt and that ginger boy from Harrt Potter. Hes brilliant in it! I am very confident that he will win the audience, both casual moviegoers and tolkienietes.

Speaking of emily blunt, couldnt she had gotten a role as an elf!? Shes so lovely and such a versatile actress.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 9:57pm

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Agreed. Freeman is great. [In reply to] Can't Post

And will be great as Bilbo.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 17 2012, 10:00pm

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Not as brilliant as Ian Holm's Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

But I'm sure he will come close.

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 10:04pm

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Will be better [In reply to] Can't Post

I love Ian Holm, and like his Bilbo, but I find it unfortunate that PJ chose some of his more OTT takes for parts of the film (such as during his conversation with Gandalf before he leaves, and his chats with Frodo in Rivendell).

Something tells me that Freeman has been less willing to exaggerate his emotions.

But who knows...


jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 17 2012, 10:06pm

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That conversation he has with gandalf after leaving the party is hilarious. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's been an inside joke between my brother and I for years. It's weird because I love that scene soooo much...but for all the wrong reasons.

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 10:21pm

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Whatever the case with Bilbo, there's no doubt he'll be very believable as Martin Freeman. ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 10:55pm

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Martin will I am sure be perfect. [In reply to] Can't Post

He has the ability to use micro movements of his facial expressions to portray subtle emotions, and he does understated English irony and humour very well. He also has a vulnerable bewildered quality about him and is not commercial and perfect looking. Hes not too young and hes not too old, hes just right.


imin
Valinor


Nov 17 2012, 11:08pm

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Agree with everything and couldnt say it better myself :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


dormouse
Half-elven


Nov 17 2012, 11:17pm

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I agree with you about the foreword [In reply to] Can't Post

I was very impressed with that, and I come to this as someone who wouldn't have chosen Martin Freeman for the part and wasn't sure about him at first. But everything I've seen and read so far about him as Bilbo looks extremely good. I think I was wrong about him, and I'm glad.


Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 18 2012, 12:15am

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Do any of US..Truly Understand the Pressure he is Under? [In reply to] Can't Post

Heart


starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 18 2012, 3:32am

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I wasn't aware people found that OTT [In reply to] Can't Post

I've never heard anyone say he overplayed Bilbo before. Interesting...


dalecooper
Rivendell

Nov 18 2012, 1:00pm

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I found him to be slightly too... theatrical. [In reply to] Can't Post

OTT isn't really the right description for me, but some moments and emotions were definitely played up to make sure it was impossible to miss them. I always pictured Bilbo as a little more droll and if anything prone to under-react; that's one reason among many I think Freeman is a great choice, because that's his entire acting style. Of course, Bilbo in "The Hobbit" is a slightly different fellow than Bilbo in LOTR, but the first one is the definitive one to me. Smile


Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 18 2012, 2:00pm

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It;s not so much Ian Holm, [In reply to] Can't Post

But the choice made by the director, that people have issues with. Although, given the sentimentality in the movies, it may have been the right choice.

But the Bilbo of the book is much more of a rascally old practical joker. I would have liked to see someone like Richard Briers or Tom Baker in the part (Tom is a bit tall though).

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


BeornBerserker
Lorien

Nov 18 2012, 2:21pm

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One of the things that struck me about tv spot 6 was how right his speech felt. Clearly that was created dialog as in the book, that scene is more or less him humoring himself by using the ring to sneak past Balin and surprise the group and then recounting a slightly altered version of his escape. I am sure those events will stay but blended with that speech and the subtle friction between him and Thorin gave it a much more adult feel. While his sentiments in that speech were not directly lifted from the text I think it is true to one of the themes in the story of Bilbo finding his true self throughout his adventure which happens many times and in different situations as his "Tookish" side comes out. Hopefully any monolog and dialog that wasn't from the book and in the scenes or events we speculate that were only mentioned in the book or appendices that are going to be fleshed out can capture that same feel. I think many of the actors are up to it, hopefully the script will be too. We won't know until the movie comes out but seeing a little more of Bilbo continues to alleviate the anxiety of turning the Hobbit into a trilogy. I am not saying that every non book invention will appear as good as that scene but if 85% was I feel giving us more of Middle Earth was definitely worth the effort.


burgahobbit
Rohan


Nov 18 2012, 3:04pm

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I really love Ian Holm as Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

But tv spot 6 has me assured that Martin will be great as well! Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 18 2012, 4:09pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

I have no issue with Freeman. But for me, Bilbo IS Ian Holm.

Just like Cate Blanchett is Galadriel, and McKellen is Gandalf.

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 18 2012, 4:12pm

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Agreed, Holm is usually much less theatrical in his film roles [In reply to] Can't Post

It was Peter Jackson who called for those "bigger" takes, and he went with them.


shadowdog
Rohan

Nov 18 2012, 4:26pm

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Frustrated [In reply to] Can't Post

Everybody keeps talking about TV Spot # 6, but nobody has - as far as I can find - posted a link to it. I have looked all over for it. HALP.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 18 2012, 4:28pm

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You may want to check [In reply to] Can't Post

The thread titled "TV Spot #6." Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 18 2012, 4:35pm

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Nov 18 2012, 7:12pm

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I read the LOTR movie guide recently and according to that it was Holm who asked for those "bigger" takes [In reply to] Can't Post

He'd do a calm take, a more intense one etc so Peter could have more to pick from.


(This post was edited by Carne on Nov 18 2012, 7:14pm)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 18 2012, 7:15pm

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What I read there was [In reply to] Can't Post

That Holm wanted to give PJ a full range of takes, from the subtle to the "big." He likes to give directors a range of choices. It was then PJ's decision to choose, and ultimately, I'm not a huge fan of choices! Smile


starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 18 2012, 7:43pm

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I suppose it could be argued that it's the effect of the Ring [In reply to] Can't Post

which makes Bilbo over-the-top. I really don't have an opinion either way, though. I liked what Ian Holm did as Bilbo, but it's such a small role that it doesn't really have an effect on my opinion of the film overall.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 18 2012, 7:56pm

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I have no idea what any of you mean by Ian Holm's performance was OTT. [In reply to] Can't Post

I must be missing something!

But don't tell me, I don't want the trilogy ruined anymore than it already has been.Tongue

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