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Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 6:56pm

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http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-kili.png

Many thanks to our dwarf Spy, Dark Jackal Wink


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 17 2012, 7:11pm

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Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 7:35pm

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Aye [In reply to] Can't Post

I already see the perfumme commercial with RA...


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 8:43pm

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He looks great [In reply to] Can't Post

That's a Dwarf Lord, long beard or no.


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Nov 17 2012, 8:45pm

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Look at the detail on the leather. [In reply to] Can't Post

Absolutely gorgeous outfit.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 8:47pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

Honestly, I think Ann Maskrey has outdone her predecessor here.


ShireHorse
Rohan

Nov 17 2012, 9:02pm

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I've made it clickable [In reply to] Can't Post

if you don't mind, Lusitano:

http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-kili.png

Great pic! Thanks a lot, Lusitano and DJ. In a brief interview in Us Magazine a couple of days ago, RA said that he had a prosthetic forehead and nose which took more than two and a half hours in make-up and I think that's what gives him the dwarven look - but it's not as cartoonish as some of the others so that I can believe in him.


starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 17 2012, 9:08pm

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Yep [In reply to] Can't Post

It's mostly to do with fabric choice, I think. I was never a fan of all the velvet Ngila Dickson used. Even with all the great detail in the LOTR costumes, some of them looked like Halloween costumes.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 9:09pm

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I think the velvet had a lot to do with it [In reply to] Can't Post

Made a number of the costumes look rather cheap, IMO.

Maskrey has an excellent eye for fabrics, I think.


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 17 2012, 9:11pm

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Here's another picture of RA as Thorin I haven't seen before... [In reply to] Can't Post

Was searching for a closer shot of his belt which I saw recently (but can't remember where!) - I believe it has a chunk of quartz in it - but nyway, stumbled across this shot in which Thorin looks older and more world-weary:

http://gratianads90.files.wordpress.com/...dec2111ranetcrop.jpg


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starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 17 2012, 9:15pm

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That's exactly right [In reply to] Can't Post

"Cheap" is the right word, unfortunately. I don't mean to dismiss Dickson's efforts; some of her work was great and it certainly wasn't cheap to make all those costumes. But just as much of it didn't look the greatest on camera. It actually makes Ann Maskrey's work all the more impressive that she has to take the high definition factor into consideration.

Now, here's hoping for a decent documentary on Maskrey's work for the DVD!


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 9:17pm

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Not at all [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks for that!

Really, i did not know that it took that long for his look...

No, ots more of a noble, warrior, look.. Nori is more of a dwarf of the streets, with a shady past and connections, and suspicious, bully looking hairdoo

Wink


ShireHorse
Rohan

Nov 17 2012, 9:20pm

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I think that's an early shot, Eleniel, [In reply to] Can't Post

whilst they were still messing around with the Thorin "look". Since then, they have made his moustache shorter since RA decided to grow his own and have made his hair darker and his nose less hooked.

The costume looks like the one from the backstage shot where he has the oakenshield on his arm and it was assumed he was shooting an Azanulbizar scene. If so, he should be looking younger, not older.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 9:26pm

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CHEAP??? [In reply to] Can't Post

your havin a laugh! Those velvet costumes were perfection. NO WAY did they look cheap. Really! Mad


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Ataahua
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Nov 17 2012, 9:31pm

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I think you meant to reply [In reply to] Can't Post

to someone other than Lusitano. :D

What was it that you particularly liked about Ngila's costumes, Ef? Personally, I loved the weight of them - how they would hang off the women's shoulders and drape beautifully.

Having said that, my favourite costumes from LOTR were Boromir's and Gimli's - the details told their own stories of the men who wore them.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 9:42pm

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at the wrong tree elenor Shocked Wink

On cheapness...not at all. Love the costumes in Lotr. In every way.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 17 2012, 9:47pm

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Looks a lot older (more worn out) than what we've seen before. [In reply to] Can't Post

They haven't filmed his death scene yet, so I wonder if this is very late on in the story? Perhaps in the lead up to the battle?

I can't imagine it's pre-Quest, but I could be wrong.

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ShireHorse
Rohan

Nov 17 2012, 10:04pm

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I think they've changed their minds so much [In reply to] Can't Post

about how Thorin should look - they've said that his image has been the most difficult to get right - that we can't tell much from these shots we saw in the early vlogs because I don't see them using them in the film any more. I don't think the look in that second pic is the one we shall finish up with. The look in Lusitano's picture seems to be the favoured one.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 10:06pm

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sorry Lusitano didnt mean to [In reply to] Can't Post

blast you will the Nucleargaladriel! Blush my apologies.

But yeah Ngila is beyond reproach IMO, she nailed it. The womens costumes were Pre-Raphaelite medieval inspired dream gowns, they looked straight out of a Waterhouse painting, and the fabrics were rich and sumptuous. The mens costumes were detailed marvelously too. I love the tiny details of Striders Ranger costume, the bandages on his fingers and the weather stained surcoat. I also found Elronds kimono style gowns an interesting idea. I am a bit of a costume nerd, so anyone thinking the LOTR velvets looked cheap is just a bit mind boggling to me, cos I know good stuff when I see it and Halloween it was not.
Crazy


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 10:08pm

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A shame [In reply to] Can't Post

I really like the look of his nose there, and the seemingly grayer hair. Looks a bit more dwarvish than the final design.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 10:09pm

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I got scared [In reply to] Can't Post

that scene when galadriel goes bazooka on frodo is scary and for a moement i thought she was risen again!Wink

Agreed, of all the faults lotr had, costume department, is not one of them.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 10:11pm

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sorry Lusitano [In reply to] Can't Post

my mistake, my apologies to you. Blush


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 17 2012, 10:11pm

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Yes, and this has had a knock on effect on Kili in particular... [In reply to] Can't Post

Making RA's Thorin look younger has meant that Aiden Turner has had to look almost adolescent to be believable as Thorin's nephew! that's probably the main reason why he couldn't keep his own fuller beard and hair...

Still doesn't explain why he couldn't have a few braids in his hair, though! Frown


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort






Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 17 2012, 10:13pm

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No [In reply to] Can't Post

no trouble dear! I enjoy a bit of excitement Sly


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 10:14pm

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On noes [In reply to] Can't Post

I think I touched a nerve! Smile

I didn't say they all looked cheap. But some of the velvety ones really did look like some of the faux-Pre-Raphaelite stuff you used to see at Ren Fairs and some hippy communes in the 1970s.

But that's just one man's opinion! Smile

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