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Changes or mis-information in Visual Guide?

Eleniel
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Nov 17 2012, 5:35pm


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Just purchased Jude Fisher's Visual Guide today and have been leafing through it... Some deliberate changes are leaping out at me, along with some statements that may be errors, particularly where there are contradictions.

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but Ori is definitely now being portrayed as the youngest of the Dwarves - this is stated in both the bios on Fili & Kili and Ori.

Thorin's bio tells us correctly that when Smaug came to Erebor, King Thror, his son Thrain and a few survivors escaped via the secret door, But it goes on to say that that Thorin's father Thrain "vanished in the dark halls of Khazad-dum," and in Balin's write-up it says that "he also accompanied Thrain on the doomed expedition to regain the kingdom of Khazad-dum, when his king was captured by Goblins and lost to his people."

Has Fisher just got confused or has Jackson changed events completely???


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(This post was edited by Eleniel on Nov 17 2012, 5:41pm)

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Changes or mis-information in Visual Guide? Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 17 2012, 5:35pm
    I can't check at the moment DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 17 2012, 5:47pm
        Birthdate Ori is not known Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 17 2012, 6:08pm
            Not sure their conclusion is very good ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 17 2012, 6:18pm
                no, the calculation is correct Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 17 2012, 6:34pm
                    But Tolkien says some 50 years DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 17 2012, 6:38pm
                        You made me double-check, but Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 17 2012, 7:01pm
                            It might be because I'm tired, but ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 17 2012, 7:08pm
                                It's purely a theoretical calculation Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 17 2012, 7:21pm
                        But i have to add Jago M Send a private message to Jago M Nov 17 2012, 7:08pm
        Ori's bio reads Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 17 2012, 6:11pm
            Thank you :-) DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 17 2012, 6:23pm
                feels like changes have been made for no reason other than to make changes imin Send a private message to imin Nov 17 2012, 6:33pm
                    I wonder if it won't be the Balin connection. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 17 2012, 7:58pm
                I wouldn't be so sure... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 17 2012, 6:36pm
                    I am one of those "purists" though less extreme than many Lol. At least the Visual Companion does say Galadriel is the mightiest ELF AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 17 2012, 7:20pm
                    I suppose this explains Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 17 2012, 11:06pm
                Justifications for the age change Seaber Send a private message to Seaber Nov 17 2012, 6:38pm
                    That can still be the case - it doesn't justify changing the ages. / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 17 2012, 6:40pm
                They also changed the strongest (used to be Dori) nt totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 18 2012, 3:09am
    Hobbit background? chris10112 Send a private message to chris10112 Nov 17 2012, 5:47pm
        Yes, but Thrain doesn't just go missing one day from Moria... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 17 2012, 6:19pm
            Not only that Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 8:50pm
        But in the actual account, Thrain didn't just go missing one day. It is actually a very creepy tale AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 17 2012, 7:03pm
    Yes, weird that Ori who seems to be the youngest has more of a beard than Kili... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 17 2012, 6:01pm
        Thrain entering so soon after the battle of Azanalbizar would seem to fly in the face AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 17 2012, 7:10pm
            I don't think it works as well as literary version, if this is the case Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 17 2012, 8:55pm
                I think both scenes are very creepy and powerful in their own way, and I think both merit displaying. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 18 2012, 9:14am
    I noted all of this today, as well Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 17 2012, 6:45pm
        What's ALITTTFOTR? GothmogTheBalrog Send a private message to GothmogTheBalrog Nov 17 2012, 6:48pm
            Arwen's life is tied to the fate of the ring // Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 17 2012, 8:02pm
                Ugh! Vomit. Definitely a royal in the court of "entirely superflous changes" AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 17 2012, 8:08pm
        Hey, VtF, did you also notice (SPOILERS) Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 17 2012, 6:56pm
            I did // Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 17 2012, 8:08pm
    Age changing doesn't matter gar-mogoth Send a private message to gar-mogoth Nov 17 2012, 6:59pm
    Reply Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 9:24am
        The suggestion remains that Thrain was taken to Dol Guldur. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 18 2012, 10:12am

 
 
 

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