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bilbos coat in prolouge of FOTR and in hobbit trailer
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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 17 2012, 11:05am

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You can [In reply to] Can't Post

But why change something that's already there? Smile

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Rohan

Nov 17 2012, 1:23pm

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I'm totally with you on that. [In reply to] Can't Post

and exactly as you said, Holm IS in The Hobbit, so it should be an acceptable change to the purists of FOTR.
This is just such an easy scene to fix, I'm sure they will.

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Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 17 2012, 3:10pm

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It's not sacrilege in my book but I wouldn't see the point [In reply to] Can't Post

What would be the advantage of changing FOTR?

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Nov 17 2012, 7:49pm

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You know there is a different actor playing Bilbo. [In reply to] Can't Post

The color of his coat seems rather minor.

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jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 17 2012, 8:22pm

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Continuity [In reply to] Can't Post

If you think about it, it's the only scene that directly messes with the continuity of the 6 films. I'm just a continuity junkie though, and for me, If I were to watch all 6 films, that one scene would really take it down a notch.

It's not like PJ will change it and then destroy all original versions of FOTR (like some other director who shall remain nameless) Wink

If it doesn't get changed, I really won't mind. I would just rather see it happen than not.

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Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 17 2012, 8:43pm

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Well equally it wouldn't [In reply to] Can't Post

Bother me if it did but continuity in things like this don't really make much difference to me.

In films, well most decent films, the actors are signifiers of a character or bundle of character attributes or narrative piece or whatever. So in FOTR whilst I am seeing Ian Holm what is signified is Bilbo. The same, one hopes, will be true for TH. So for me I will be seeing Bilbo in TH, Bilbo in the prologue and Bilbo in the rest of LOTR.

As such, swapping the actors doesn't really make any difference to me.

LR


jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 17 2012, 8:51pm

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We'll have to agree to disagree I suppose [In reply to] Can't Post

If Holm wasn't in The Hobbit, I would say leave it the way it is for sure. It just comes off to me as "heres old bilbo, heres young bilbo, oh and here's young bilbo again but he doesn't look like young bilbo"

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jimmyfenn
Rohan


Nov 18 2012, 1:03am

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ian holm will always be frodo to me, the bbc dramatisations are ingrained on my psyche, so when the films kicked off it was like,,, no thats frodos voice it cant be bilbo!

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Rohan

Nov 18 2012, 4:26pm

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I would have changed Holm even if he hadn't been in The Hobbit... [In reply to] Can't Post

but as you said, being him there, it makes no sense not changing him in FOTR.

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