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R Hobbits the dead heads of Middle Earth ?


Nov 17 2012, 1:52am

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R Hobbits the dead heads of Middle Earth ? Can't Post

Passion for pipe weed and mushrooms hippy dippy world view ?

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Nov 17 2012, 2:26am

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Considering the author... [In reply to] Can't Post

Tolkien being not at all "hippy dippy", he meant tobacco (he said so in the Prologue to LOTR) and normal edible mushrooms, both of which he and many other quite non-dippy people enjoy.

Those of a hippy persuasion chose to interpret it to suit themselves in spite of evidence to the contrary, and some see PJ's slightly ambiguous portrayal as a deliberate nod in their direction.

In the end, I suppose people hear and see what they want to.


Grey Havens

Nov 17 2012, 2:54am

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Yup [In reply to] Can't Post

They probably spell words phonetically with a single letter and numbers under their condition too.


Grey Havens

Nov 17 2012, 2:57am

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Ambiguous [In reply to] Can't Post

I understand that Mr. PJ had Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd as Merry and Pippin do some far less ambiguous takes as well.


Nov 17 2012, 10:58am

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Tolkien - no, Jackson - yes (in one sense only) [In reply to] Can't Post

Jackson certainly had fun with the "pipeweed" references as we all did back in the day ("I was there, Gandalf, three thousand - well, forty-some-odd, years ago!") but Tolkien and his Hobbits were too old-fashioned and traditional to embrace a "countercultural" lifestyle. We (and I think I can say "we") liked the sense of community, of valuing "good food and merry cheer over hoarded gold", of living in closer harmony with the natural world that Tolkien espoused.


Nov 21 2012, 1:43am

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

and I suppose that people do not see and hear what they do not want as well.


Nov 21 2012, 5:12am

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Okay as an Old Retired Hippy from Boulder Colorado [In reply to] Can't Post

I read all 4 books in Christmas 1967.
Yes 100s of thousands of us..all over the World from Amsterdam to Haight Asbury...read them too.

Yet none of us were "Dippy"...too.

When JRRT died in 1973.. thousands morned
since it was like
OUR Grandfather died...

BOMBY even produced a Liquid LightShow
backingup Rock Bands "on the Hill" next to CU's campus..
The name my re-occuring LightShow...?

"The Arkenstone Lightshow."

Bomby wazz jus'... early to this Unexpected Party
Looong..before many of you were born.



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