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bilbos coat in prolouge of FOTR and in hobbit trailer
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jimmyfenn
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 3:52pm

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bilbos coat in prolouge of FOTR and in hobbit trailer Can't Post

ok maybe im being a bit obssesive, but in the fotr prologue (which is the best part of all the films IMO) bilbo (ian holm) in the gollums cave scene has a dark coat and bright waistcoat underneath, but in the hobbit trailer cave scene bilbo (freeman) has a red coat and dark waistcoat

continuity error? lol

for quickbeam often laughed, he laughed if the sun came out from behind a cloud, he laughed if they came upon a stream or spring:


Cave Troll
Rivendell

Nov 16 2012, 4:04pm

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I can't believe it's an error. [In reply to] Can't Post

For better or worse, it must have been a conscious decision.

Doesn't really bother me, if I'm honest.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Nov 16 2012, 4:07pm

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In earlier discussions... [In reply to] Can't Post

... it's been revealed that PJ doesn't really care (at least on this point) about continuity.

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.


Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 16 2012, 4:07pm

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It's not an error [In reply to] Can't Post

It's because of the RED camera. The original green colour didn't look good on it, so they had to change the colour. It's in one of the interviews somewhere.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Cave Troll
Rivendell

Nov 16 2012, 4:09pm

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Fairy nuff [In reply to] Can't Post

 


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 4:11pm

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ha [In reply to] Can't Post

i really dont care about it, but i just noticed when i started watch the fellowship again


it really will not spoil the film experience for me lol

would love to read that interview if anyone knows which one!

for quickbeam often laughed, he laughed if the sun came out from behind a cloud, he laughed if they came upon a stream or spring:


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 16 2012, 4:14pm

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It could on purpose [In reply to] Can't Post

If they are planning to remove Holm from the prologue.

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Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 16 2012, 4:15pm

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Sorry, I tend not to keep track of everything I read. [In reply to] Can't Post

My best guess would be Empire Magazine, but I would only rate myself a 50% chance of being correct.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Nov 16 2012, 4:34pm

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Read your Officail Gude [In reply to] Can't Post

It is explained there.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 16 2012, 4:41pm

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They could still make it part of the plot though? [In reply to] Can't Post

Not that I want Holm replaced. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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macfalk
Valinor


Nov 16 2012, 4:44pm

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One could argue that... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Bilbo we see in the prologue for FOTR is just Galadriel's image of him, a re-cap of the Middle-earth events channeled through her that may not be 100% accurate.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


imin
Valinor


Nov 16 2012, 4:56pm

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In the grand scheme of things [In reply to] Can't Post

It isnt that bad, lol.

I would bet a million pounds it is what people on IMDb will use as something to show how the hobbit movies suck though, lol.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 16 2012, 5:06pm

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If we can accept a different actor [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm pretty sure we can accept a different colored waistcoat.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor


Nov 16 2012, 5:20pm

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Oh wait I found another "lol continuity error" [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo is played by another actor in this scene than in the FOTR prologue! Wink Funny nobody mentioned that before Tongue

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iandea14
Rivendell


Nov 16 2012, 5:23pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

I like your explanation, also who really cares the movie is still going to be amazing even though Bilbo just decided to change his wardrobe around.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 16 2012, 5:32pm

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I didn't even think of that ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Eleniel
Grey Havens


Nov 16 2012, 5:48pm

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Well, after all... [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo does come back from his adventures a changed man - er - Hobbit! Wink


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Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 16 2012, 6:45pm

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Glad to enlighten you!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


There&ThereAgain
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 6:49pm

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BAM [In reply to] Can't Post

well said.

"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien

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starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 16 2012, 11:12pm

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I, for one, like the costumes better this time around [In reply to] Can't Post

Ngila Dickson did some great work, but I think Ann Maskrey is a better designer. Already I can tell that her fabric choices are much classier and nice to look at. I particularly like the slight change in the elven costumes.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 16 2012, 11:18pm

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To his credit [In reply to] Can't Post

My understanding is that the color red helps have Bilbo stand out as a "fish out of water" in the wilderness. There's little less "camouflagey" than red!

That is much more important from a visual storytelling perspective than continuity with a 2-second flashback from FOTR. IMO, this is an example of smart storytelling on PJ's part.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 16 2012, 11:19pm

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Agreed 100% [In reply to] Can't Post

I find her choices to be spot on.


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 16 2012, 11:27pm

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It's the thin end of the wedge. [In reply to] Can't Post

It'll be a different actor soon if we aren't careful

LR


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 11:27pm

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but! [In reply to] Can't Post

yes of course its a visual cue to make him stand out. i wasnt really being that serious ;)


though i would have thought hobbits as described by tolkien would want to be a little more discreet than wearing bright red for when wanting to disappear for example!

for quickbeam often laughed, he laughed if the sun came out from behind a cloud, he laughed if they came upon a stream or spring:


jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 17 2012, 3:47am

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I hope I'm not the only one who wants Freeman in FOTR prologue... [In reply to] Can't Post

Don't get me wrong, I love Ian Holm as Bilbo. I just think that if Holm is in The Hobbit as older Bilbo, then Freeman should be in FOTR as younger Bilbo. A lot of people think that's sacrilege, but can't I love both of them equally?

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"

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