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Galadriel in The Hobbit (TV Spot question)
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revecus
The Shire


Nov 16 2012, 7:38am

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Galadriel in The Hobbit (TV Spot question) Can't Post

Good morning to all (it's morning over here :) )

First of all, I am sorry if this has been discussed before, but my overbearing daily activities have impeded me to visit the forum as often as I did.

I wanted to ask you about that one shot of Galadriel at night, with the different gown. Can it be that Bilbo wakes up during the night and goes roaming around Rivendell and he stumbles on Galadriel who warns him about his thievery, Smaug, the ring, etc... Just like in FotR with Frodo.

Has this option been considered as such?

Thank you

Pippin: I didn't think it would end this way.
Gandalf: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path... One that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass... And then you see it.
Pippin: What? Gandalf?... See what?
Gandalf: White shores... and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
Pippin: [smiling] Well, that isn't so bad.
Gandalf: [softly] No... No it isn't.


Mooseboy018
Gondor


Nov 16 2012, 7:43am

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Please no... [In reply to] Can't Post

Warning him about the Ring wouldn't make any sense... at all.


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 16 2012, 7:57am

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Bilbo hasn't found the Ring by then. [In reply to] Can't Post

And I hope not. The White Council (and especially Gandalf) don't associate Bilbo with Isildur's Bane.

We know that the Company leaves Rivendell, while Gandalf stays for the White Council meeting. This is probably the infamous Gandriel love scene.

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revecus
The Shire


Nov 16 2012, 1:39pm

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True [In reply to] Can't Post

Though I didn't mean only "the ring" because true that would not make sense...

But maybe just warn him about Smaug and everything subsequent... Don't know... It would be pretty unreasonable to have a separate scene with Gandalf and Galadriel, at night... it's just too much and I don't think Peter Jackson will do that... So I am pretty much convinced that the scene at night, with Galadriel and the different gown will be something entirely different from what has been guessed as a (stupid) amorous story...

Pippin: I didn't think it would end this way.
Gandalf: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path... One that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass... And then you see it.
Pippin: What? Gandalf?... See what?
Gandalf: White shores... and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
Pippin: [smiling] Well, that isn't so bad.
Gandalf: [softly] No... No it isn't.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 16 2012, 4:08pm

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I've been wondering this too [In reply to] Can't Post

In every other screen shot we've seen her in, she's wearing that other white dress. That means her scene with Gandalf and the White Council scene are at least connected somehow.

But in this shot she's in a completely different dress and it's at night. I'm completely at a loss of what it could be.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 10:11pm

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I'm just hoping she gets off that balconey... [In reply to] Can't Post

It seriously seems like she's trapped there. It's very odd.

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 16 2012, 10:17pm

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She can fly! [In reply to] Can't Post

She's hiding a parachute under that dress. Saruman sees her lust for Gandalf. In a mad rage, he pushes her off the cliff, not realising she has a parachute. The audience think she will fall to her death.

Suddenly, a great big Union Flag appears in the sky. Galadriel glides to safety.

This all happens while The James Bind music is playing.

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Nov 16 2012, 10:19pm)


jtarkey
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 10:22pm

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It's official [In reply to] Can't Post

I will be extremely disappointed if that doesn't happen exactly the way you described it. Maybe this is the 3rd film? The Hobbit: Galadriels Great Balcony Escape

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


Kassandros
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 11:05pm

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There's been speculation that it's just an image of her [In reply to] Can't Post

Some have theorized that she's projecting an image of herself and that she doesn't actually leave Lothlorien.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 16 2012, 11:08pm

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We know she has the ability to fade in and out [In reply to] Can't Post

Your latter suggestion might fit this.

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 16 2012, 11:13pm

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As long as she says [In reply to] Can't Post

"Help us Bilbo, you're our only hope," I will be fine with her as a hologram.


(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Nov 16 2012, 11:20pm)


Kassandros
Rohan


Nov 16 2012, 11:17pm

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I bet she might appear my projection in Film 1 and then in the flesh in Film 3 [In reply to] Can't Post

I could see her appearing as just an image during the White Council, but then travelling to Dol Guldur in person. This would make it seem more important and exciting when she shows up in the flesh. I think it'd work especially well if they move the throwing down the walls of Dol Guldur from the end of Lord of the Rings to the end of The Hobbit.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 16 2012, 11:20pm

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One problem with this theory [In reply to] Can't Post

In the very first trailer, she brushes away Gandalf's hair...


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 12:01am

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I dont think its [In reply to] Can't Post

a different dress. I think its its just a heavy handed blue filter thing to make it look like moonlight and shadow. maybe.
I made one without the blue tone.




(This post was edited by Elenorflower on Nov 17 2012, 12:03am)


Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 17 2012, 12:08am

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It's definitely a different dress [In reply to] Can't Post

It's the grey one shown in one of the vlogs. It's very different from the white one seen in the other scenes.

Here's a link to it.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales

(This post was edited by Ardamírë on Nov 17 2012, 12:10am)


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 1:09am

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its kind of [In reply to] Can't Post

silver/grey looking to me. But its not dark blue as in the photo.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 17 2012, 1:12am

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Who said it was blue? [In reply to] Can't Post

Me and revecus have just been saying it's a different dress, so it's gotta be a different scene.

ETA - I agree the blue tint is due to some sort of filter.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales

(This post was edited by Ardamírë on Nov 17 2012, 1:12am)


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 1:30am

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exqueeze me [In reply to] Can't Post

I misunderstood the points you both were making. Tongue so basically there are 2 dresses, the white Council meeting one and the silver grey balcony one?


Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 17 2012, 1:44am

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Yep! [In reply to] Can't Post

And every scene we've seen of Cate so far has been in the white dress. So I'm pretty lost as to what this night time scene is.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 17 2012, 11:09am

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It's pretty obvious ... No? / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 17 2012, 1:18pm

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Oh hush!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 17 2012, 1:49pm

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Haha! [In reply to] Can't Post

This is probably the night of the White Council meeting, before Gandalf heads off to find the Dwarves. Perhaps they're jut saying goodbye - it might be the last time they see each other until ROTK (film universe).

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Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 3:11pm

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I reckon the silver one [In reply to] Can't Post

is an over dress she puts on over the white one. It must get a bit nippy hanging around on high balconies, at night. Wink


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 17 2012, 3:13pm

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With an Owl!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

(((sorry just had a Fast Show moment, itll pass)))))) Sly


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 17 2012, 4:18pm

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Could it be [In reply to] Can't Post

That Saruman has imprisoned her on that balcony?

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