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Differences to the book...

The Shire

Nov 15 2012, 3:54pm

Post #1 of 13 (1118 views)
Differences to the book... Can't Post

Dear all so what do you think will be the key differences to the book in the movie?

I see- the inclusion of Sauron, Galadriel, and Saruman?

Anything else?


Nov 15 2012, 4:04pm

Post #2 of 13 (611 views)
Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

More emphasis on the action/adventure aspects of the story. A deeper exploration of Middle-earth as Thorin and Company head east. And an increased involvement of the Necromancer in the film story.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Nov 15 2012, 4:19pm

Post #3 of 13 (579 views)
None of those things qualify as "significant" changes. [In reply to] Can't Post

Since they don't affect the character arcs of the main characters in the book - Bilbo and Thorin.

There are changes that do affect those arcs significantly.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

(This post was edited by Fardragon on Nov 15 2012, 4:20pm)


Nov 15 2012, 4:22pm

Post #4 of 13 (597 views)
The key difference will be that [In reply to] Can't Post

More people dislike the films, than those that dislike the book.Tongue

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Crunchable Birdses

Nov 15 2012, 4:29pm

Post #5 of 13 (544 views)
Is there going to be a new thread on every little question about what's in the book? [In reply to] Can't Post


* crunch *


Nov 15 2012, 4:31pm

Post #6 of 13 (548 views)
I would be more interested in the silmilarities to [In reply to] Can't Post

the book. and from what I have seen so far its all very different and glossy adventureish. Apart from Bilbos character which does seem at least subtle. Right from the look of the Dwarves onwards. Maybe I wont mind all the changes when I actually see the films, and I really hope I enjoy them. I hope they can still capture the charm and whimsy of the book with hunking Dwarven hunks having flings with Elven maidens roaming about?

Tol Eressea

Nov 15 2012, 4:49pm

Post #7 of 13 (503 views)
Here here Elenor [In reply to] Can't Post

I totally agree with you on this one Wink

Tol Eressea

Nov 15 2012, 5:08pm

Post #8 of 13 (484 views)
Seconded! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's my main worry, even though I have come to accept that it will be "The Hobbit, Jim...but not as we know it!" Wink

"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort


Nov 15 2012, 5:20pm

Post #9 of 13 (482 views)
the fact.. [In reply to] Can't Post

the fact that some of the dwarves, mainly thorin hasnt really got a beard really annoys me, i mean cmon!

for quickbeam often laughed, he laughed if the sun came out from behind a cloud, he laughed if they came upon a stream or spring:


Nov 15 2012, 6:10pm

Post #10 of 13 (453 views)
And more people, inversely, [In reply to] Can't Post

Will like the films than like (or have even read) the book. I'm basing this baseless prediction on the number of 8-18 year olds that will buy tickets (or have tickets bought for them) that have probably not read the book, since they make up the bulk of movie tickets sold.

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Nov 15 2012, 7:56pm

Post #11 of 13 (413 views)
Are we doing homework or an article? [In reply to] Can't Post

If the latter, at least someone bothered to consult the experts for a changeLaugh

The Shire

Nov 16 2012, 8:16am

Post #12 of 13 (348 views)
Thanks all. [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks all.

I am trying to consolidate my knowledge (massive Tolk fan but been ages since I read the stuff- but I read it all) so that when the movie comes out I can do a review on my blog.

All your knowledge and keenness to help is really good and I am really happy with the help I got.


Nov 16 2012, 11:07am

Post #13 of 13 (415 views)
Events are more tied to the theme [In reply to] Can't Post

The book doesn't really explain why things are happening. Gandalf appears to choose Bilbo as the burglar for no reason (he knows Bilbo's parents). In the movie, they expend a bit of effort to give reason(s).

The dwarf/goblin angle is clarified. Apparently the goblins start hunting the dwarves shortly after they leave the Shire. In the book, the goblins don't hunt the dwarves at all. The capture of the dwarves in the mountains feels more like happenstance than a concerted effort to track the dwarves down and catch them. The increased interaction with goblins is likely to make the dwarves look more like warriors than they came off in the book.

You could write in a single paragraph every notable thing a dwarf did in the book: "Fili has a hood of a certain color and a beard of a certain color. Fili is a young nephew of Thorin. Fili dies protecting Thorin. The end." I think the fact that the dwarves will be more than replaceable parts in the movie has to change some things.

We don't know what Radagast does in the book. He is going to do stuff in the movie, such as report that evil is coming back into the world. That has to change the tone, at least.


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