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Arandir
Gondor


Nov 14 2012, 6:31pm

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TV Spot 6! Can't Post

Here you go:

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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 14 2012, 6:34pm

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Love it! [In reply to] Can't Post

I already feel moved by Bilbo's little speech ...Unimpressed

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Escapist
Gondor


Nov 14 2012, 6:35pm

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Simply beautiful! [In reply to] Can't Post

This is great!


Flame of Udun
Rivendell


Nov 14 2012, 6:35pm

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This one was...different [In reply to] Can't Post

It gave me a whole new perspective on how Bilbo will be played by Freeman. Was it just me or did that little laugh Bilbo did seem a bit odd?

"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Balrog! A Balrog is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand. What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.''


dormouse
Half-elven


Nov 14 2012, 6:36pm

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I love the opening scene of that... [In reply to] Can't Post

It has that same quality that a lot of the LotR scenes do - makes me want to start drawing.


elevorn
Lorien


Nov 14 2012, 6:38pm

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Oh I'm not gonna make it through the wait!!!// [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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DanielLB
Immortal


Nov 14 2012, 6:39pm

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I suspect Thorin asks Bilbo [In reply to] Can't Post

Whether he's done much fighting, and then Bilbo does his speech (so its been edited the other way round.)

The laugh doesn't seem odd to me.

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Ayiana
The Shire


Nov 14 2012, 6:40pm

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My favourite TV Spot so far [In reply to] Can't Post

I love Bilbo's speech.


Flame of Udun
Rivendell


Nov 14 2012, 6:46pm

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That would make more sense [In reply to] Can't Post

IMO the laugh just seemed a tiny bit forced. I know it's a nervous laugh and all, but hopefully, like the faint, it will flow better in full context

"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Balrog! A Balrog is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand. What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.''


Carne
Tol Eressea

Nov 14 2012, 6:51pm

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Nice to get a good amount of Bilbo dialogue! [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, and as mentioned I don't think Thorin's question takes place in this scene, as he's seen saying it in Bag End in another TV spot.

Here it is on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxrW2T1F8KA

Great Goblins's throne at 00:10, and what appears to be him on the floor.


(This post was edited by Carne on Nov 14 2012, 6:55pm)


thomasofrohan
Lorien

Nov 14 2012, 6:53pm

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Sounds fine to me [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think it was supposed to be just nervous laughter with the way Bilbo literally says the "ha ha ha" in response. There's a way Martin says it that I think was a deliberate choice, and I think it's perfectly Bilbo. Just my opinion.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 14 2012, 6:55pm

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The theatrical trailer would have been much better had it been more in vein of this TV spot. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Nov 14 2012, 6:58pm

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IMO, this seems like it's from the end of the film, with Bilbo having rejoined the Dwarves after Goblin-town... [In reply to] Can't Post

We'll start with the scene described by Empire (?), a while back, with Thorin saying that Bilbo has fled and they won't be seeing him again. Bilbo reappears, gives this little speech...perhaps this is where he has the exchange about having found his courage with Gandy from the Comic-Con footage. Then we get the pursuit by Wargs as night falls (looks like sunset here), then Out of the Frying Pan. Either that, or this is the last scene of the film (perhaps it's sunrise, following their Eagle escape)? Also, wonder if this is where "Dreaming of Bag End" will play?

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Lissuin
Tol Eressea


Nov 14 2012, 6:59pm

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Here's the heart.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Ardamírë
Valinor


Nov 14 2012, 7:04pm

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Very much agreed. [In reply to] Can't Post

This was done very very well. I think Bilbo's speech gives it a little heart for us to connect with, and it also tells why they're all on this journey - to take back the dwarves' home.

Very good tv spot!

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Macfeast
Rohan


Nov 14 2012, 7:14pm

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I think you're right in regards to Thorin. [In reply to] Can't Post

The words ("have you done much fighting?") don't seem to sync up with his lip-movement, imo; It seems more likely to be dialogue lifted from the Bag End-scene we saw in one of the other tv-spots.

Random observation; In the last shot before the title shows (where Bilbo charges at something with Sting drawn), Thorin is lying in the background. Perhaps this occurs just after a warg has shaken Thorin in it's mouth (as suggested in an interview with Armitage), Bilbo being the one to save him?

All in all, I think this is one of the best tv-spots yet, along with the Japanese one. Love the dialogue from Bilbo, and the forced laugh feels kind of appropriate. I also like how, when all the other dwarves are stood around Bilbo, Balin is standing beside him; Is he standing up in defense of Bilbo?


(This post was edited by Macfeast on Nov 14 2012, 7:24pm)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 14 2012, 7:16pm

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Woah, at 0:24 - SPOILERS [In reply to] Can't Post

When Bilbo yells and charges at something, Thorin is lying on the ground behind him, seemingly dead (or knocked unconscious)...

Is this fake death #37? Smile



Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 14 2012, 7:17pm

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The single most encouraging trailer I have seen since the first one [In reply to] Can't Post

Freeman seems to be a perfect Bilbo here. The acting is spot-on. And I like the dialogue (clearly post-Goblintown, when Thorin is questioning Bilbo's disappearance).

His laugh is perfect, as it is a nervous, fake laugh (seemingly, in response to a question he has heard before from Thorin - at Bag End).

Also, it looks great!



thomasofrohan
Lorien

Nov 14 2012, 7:20pm

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Agreed that the laugh being fake is the point, so it's appropriate. Regarding Bilbo and Freeman's performance, I also enjoy... [In reply to] Can't Post

How he almost immediately goes to put his hands in his pockets. Nice touch.


starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 14 2012, 7:20pm

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They seem to have fixed some visual "fakery" [In reply to] Can't Post

Everything looks better on a visual level here! I love the dusk lighting during "Bilbo's speech" scene.


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Nov 14 2012, 7:23pm

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The question is... [In reply to] Can't Post

...have you done much fighting?

Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.

"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 14 2012, 7:28pm

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Also, the laugh isn't directed at Thorin but Dwalin. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 14 2012, 7:28pm

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I know [In reply to] Can't Post

Which is why I referred to him previously asking the question in Bag End.


smokerings
Rivendell


Nov 14 2012, 7:31pm

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Ok, not thrilled.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I put it off too long and it there are a few threads here started already on this - but Martin's acting is just not doing it for me after 6 TV spots and 2 trailers. He is too contemporary in his delivery and his acting for this classic role...it just seems so out of place based on all the other acting I have seen to date with LoTR and the things we have seen to date.

I am really starting to second guess this now....for something I have been waiting a lifetime for.

I know I am not alone in these feelings....


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Nov 14 2012, 7:33pm

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Oops, sorry :) [In reply to] Can't Post

It took me a while to figure out what Thorin was asking. Did Thorin also ask this in one of the other trailers or TV spots?

Frito groaned. "I wish I had never been born," he said.

"Do not say that, dear Frito," cried Orlon. "It was a happy minute for us all when you were born."

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