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YaznegSouth40
Rivendell
Nov 9 2012, 8:42pm
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Goblin/Orc connection?
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With all these leaked images of goblins and orcs from the upcoming movie it is making me wonder (for this adaptation at least) what the connection is between the slimy, sore festered goblins and the orcs (more man-sized) presumably from Dol Guldur? Does one group have more dominion over the other : the orcs of the Necromancer dominate but also aid the goblins when they are in trouble (Goblin King's death) and later at the Battle of Five Armies?
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Goblin/Orc connection?
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YaznegSouth40
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Nov 9 2012, 8:42pm
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We don't know for certain I don't think.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 9 2012, 8:48pm
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Tolkien used the term interchangeably
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sinister71
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Nov 9 2012, 10:09pm
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yeah he used them interchangeably earlier on, however I'm pretty (but not 100%) that by the LOTR he referred to goblins as being a bit different to Orcs
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Xanaseb
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Nov 10 2012, 12:02am
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Goblin/Orc Distinguished
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chrism628
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Nov 9 2012, 10:21pm
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Orc domination
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YaznegSouth40
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Nov 9 2012, 10:35pm
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However....
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YaznegSouth40
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Nov 9 2012, 10:38pm
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I'm excited too
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sinister71
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Nov 10 2012, 3:48am
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In the movie, Gandalf will assure Bilbo (spoilers)
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burgahobbit
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Nov 9 2012, 10:33pm
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Well, here's the thing:
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Lightice
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Nov 10 2012, 12:13am
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Music to my ears
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Elthir
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Nov 10 2012, 4:49am
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Orc is just another word for goblin
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 10 2012, 3:28am
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My personal almost biological solution
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Nov 10 2012, 6:03pm
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But there were no "goblins" referenced in the LOTR films
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 10 2012, 6:56pm
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Not in every translation
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Nov 10 2012, 7:02pm
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It seems in PJ's films, all Goblins are Orcs, but not all Orcs are Goblins...
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Captain Salt
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Nov 10 2012, 7:10pm
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The Misty Mountains ones work best for me
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 10 2012, 7:12pm
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Oh but there is
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ForestPark
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Nov 10 2012, 11:29pm
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Goblin-men
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 11 2012, 2:50am
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There is an old saying..
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ForestPark
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Nov 11 2012, 3:43am
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LOL///
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Bombadil
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Nov 11 2012, 1:00pm
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No actually he says "goblins".
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Tim
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Nov 11 2012, 3:43am
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You speak that with which I agree
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 2:53pm
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I think the terms are interchangeable
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totoro
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Nov 11 2012, 7:02pm
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They are interchangeable
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 7:32pm
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"Orc" of course being
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 12 2012, 4:40am
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That's true
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Elthir
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Nov 12 2012, 12:42pm
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Tolkien's note to the third edition Hobbit
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 10:39pm
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by the way...
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 10:57pm
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Film canon
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 1:24am
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