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SCOD - Mourning Theodred

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Tol Eressea

Nov 7 2012, 1:58pm

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SCOD - Mourning Theodred Can't Post

Today's screencap overlooks Eowyn's dismay over the death of Theodred.

1.) What are some key set decorations that stand out here, such as the rug/carpet, the tiles, or the tapestry? What are the specific details that you can spot? What significance do they hold?

2.) What mood does the lighting evoke? How else could it have been approached?

3.) Any other thoughts?

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Nov 7 2012, 8:06pm

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are these wolfskins? [In reply to] Can't Post

Don't get me started on interiors again, especially bedrooms and libraries!

What this environment seems to say is impermanence... this is not a lived-in bedroom and looks as if some people have dragged a bed into this room because Theodred can't get upstairs, and added some fur rugs to make it look more homely. The skins also link to the fast-moving tent dwelling people which are the Rohirrim at war; and wildness still in there somewhere, unlike the settled existence of Gondorians or hobbits.

The light, I think, is a cold morning; she has sat with her cousin all night, now it is light and he is dead. Very chilly and desolate, especially against the dark wood and fur.

And that's enough long words from me! Smile

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Nov 7 2012, 9:24pm

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A great shot {NT} [In reply to] Can't Post


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Nov 7 2012, 11:38pm

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I get the feeling of cold. [In reply to] Can't Post

Wolf? Calf? skins on the stone floor and furs piled on the bed tell me that this is a cold room to be sleeping in. Despite that, I want that room! I feel like I could barricade myself in there and no one would get in.

Eowyn's white dress is interesting. Is she wearing white for mourning? (Although she wore forest green at Theodred's interment.) White is such an impractical colour for a horse-based community that I believe there is some traditional meaning behind the colour.

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Nov 8 2012, 1:11am

Post #5 of 9 (463 views)
it makes me want to ask [In reply to] Can't Post

where her feet are?


Nov 8 2012, 7:01am

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So beautiful [In reply to] Can't Post

I think this shot is so sad and beautiful. To me, it seems like very early dawn - that time of the night that is so cold, and many sick or injured people seem to die at this time. The candle is burning low, showing that she's been there all night and that maybe her own fire is burning low, too.

The fact that he's in such a cold, dark room makes me wonder whether Grima or his henchmen had anything to do with where he was put when he was brought back to Edoras, or was it just the most convenient?

I think Eowyn's dress here shows her goodness and pureness/loyalty to Rohan, and the fact that it is elegant, fine, well-fitted, with the belt matching her pale golden hair, it is perfectly contrasted to Grima's outfit in the next scene - his bulky, grimy looking black furs. That also shows that she feels at home and in her element in the cold, sparse environment of the Golden Hall, where Wormtongue wants to shield himself from the cold, and from the environment itself.

The faded tapestry tells me that this is a place that was once full of splendor and warmth, but has fallen onto harder times.

Tol Eressea

Nov 8 2012, 8:06am

Post #7 of 9 (440 views)
Theodred doesn't fit the bed [In reply to] Can't Post

1.) What are some key set decorations that stand out here, such as the rug/carpet, the tiles, or the tapestry? What are the specific details that you can spot? What significance do they hold?

I like what the others have said, but I think that this room is intended as a bedroom, but it's not Theodred's room. I had never really noticed before, but he has to be placed diagonally to fit the bed.

2.) What mood does the lighting evoke? How else could it have been approached?

The lighting is very somber and almost tomb-like.

3.) Any other thoughts?

About Eowyn's dress: it seems like she's wearing the same dress she was wearing when Theodred was brought back, as if she has been by his side all night. However, if I remember correctly, there were some continuity problems with her intermittently in the green dress with the front strands of her hair pulled back, and in this white dress with her hair down. I don't know how much was intended to show passage of time, and how much was just bad continuity. Maybe they couldn't decide between the two because they were both so beautifulSmile


Nov 8 2012, 8:19am

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I always felt sorry for the actor playing Theodred [In reply to] Can't Post

He didn't have much of an opportunity to show his skills.
And he only gets one 'line'. Crazy


Nov 8 2012, 8:23am

Post #9 of 9 (674 views)
That's an interesting observation [In reply to] Can't Post

about him not fitting on the bed. I never noticed that.


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