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Brian Sibley's Official Movie Guide to The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (some spoiler pics)
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Sinister71
Aessere Lot


Oct 30 2012, 12:35am

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Great to finally hear who is voicing them [In reply to] Can't Post

now if we only knew if it were Gandalf going to get the arguing and keep them busy until dawn... one can only hopeSmile


DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 30 2012, 10:57am

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My little theory was that Ian McKellen would voice them [In reply to] Can't Post

Since he has to replicate their voices. I always imagined that if McKellen could do 3 different voices, then it would be more believable, than seeing him voice words, but having other actor's voices over the top.

I hope it works. Unsure

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Elenorflower
Rodnog


Oct 30 2012, 12:32pm

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Sinister through the Looking Glass [In reply to] Can't Post

'He's dreaming now,' said Tweedledee: 'and what do you think he's dreaming about?'
Sinister said 'Nobody can guess that.'
'Why, about you!' Tweedledee exclaimed, clapping his hands triumphantly. 'And if PJ left off dreaming about you, where do you suppose you'd be?'
'Where I am now, of course,' said Sinister.
'Not you!' Tweedledee retorted contemptuously. 'You'd be nowhere. Why, you're only a sort of thing in his dream!'
'If that there PJ was to wake,' added Tweedledum, 'you'd go out bang! just like a candle!'
'I shouldn't!' Sinister exclaimed indignantly. 'Besides, if I'm only a sort of thing in his dream, what are you, I should like to know?'
'Ditto' said Tweedledum.
'Ditto, ditto!' cried Tweedledee
He shouted this so loud that Sinister couldn't help saying, 'Hush! You'll be waking him, I'm afraid, if you make so much noise.'
'Well, it no use your talking about waking him,' said Tweedledum, 'when you're only one of the things in his dream. You know very well you're not real.'
'I am real!' said Sinister and began to cry.
'You won't make yourself a bit realler by crying,' Tweedledee remarked: 'there's nothing to cry about.'
'If I wasn't real,' Sinister said half-laughing through his tears, it all seemed so ridiculous 'I shouldn't be able to cry.'
'I hope you don't suppose those are real tears?' Tweedledum interrupted in a tone of great contempt.
'I know they're talking nonsense,' Sinister thought to himself: 'and it's foolish to cry about it.' So he brushed away his tears, and went on as cheerfully as he could.


Eleniel
Aessere Lot


Oct 30 2012, 2:06pm

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Further spoilers [In reply to] Can't Post

I did spot two other spoilers in the Sibley guide - well, one definite one regarding the troll scene, the other in the interview with Barry Humphries which just could have been Humphries' joking around. If not, it's yet another example of PJ's toilet humour and is going to have many throwing up ther hands in disgust...

Which is why I haven't revealed it as yet. I'd like to see what you reckon on it first, DLB!


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort






Shelob'sAppetite
Ronilav

Oct 30 2012, 4:02pm

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The various interview that have been emerging lately [In reply to] Can't Post

Have convinced me that there will be lots of toilet and gross-out humor in the films, and that they will ultimately be a lot worse than I was expecting. My enthusiasm for the films is at an all-time low.


DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 30 2012, 6:24pm

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Hmmm ... I don't like the sound of the Great Goblin spoiler [In reply to] Can't Post

And I can't imagine others will either. It's Radagast's beard all over again ...

What's the page number for the other one? I haven't read it properly yet.
Smile

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Captain Salt
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Oct 30 2012, 6:45pm

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What Great Goblin spoiler? Are his pustules constantly popping/oozing or something? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Captain Salt
Aessere Lot


Oct 30 2012, 6:52pm

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Next Tuesday seems so far away... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 30 2012, 7:11pm

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You're not far off! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Eleniel
Aessere Lot


Oct 30 2012, 7:19pm

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p123, Interview with Bifur... [In reply to] Can't Post

It's only a minor thing, but I don't remember it happening in the book!


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort






DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 30 2012, 8:31pm

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There's a picture of that in the visual companion! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Shelob'sAppetite
Ronilav

Oct 30 2012, 8:37pm

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I'm not quite sure I understand [In reply to] Can't Post

Why these spoilers are being cryptically referred to, yet not revealed?

The book is not available on this side of the pond yet. So please, do tell what you've read about Bifur and the Great Goblin! Smile


Eleniel
Aessere Lot


Oct 30 2012, 8:37pm

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Well then... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll let you do the honours and reveal the spoilers! Smile

(Mind you, surely it has significant impact on how the scene plays out in the book? As in, how can Gandalf start the argument over the best way to cook the Dwarves?)


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort






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DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 30 2012, 9:16pm

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It's rare I know something that others do not! [In reply to] Can't Post

Let me enjoy myself for a little longer.Wink

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DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 30 2012, 9:19pm

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I'm using an iPhone so ill keep it short and sweet [In reply to] Can't Post

The spoilers are:

The Goblin kings throne is also a toilet - there is a hole in it so he can do his business

The 3 Trolls tie up a number of the Dwarves and spit roast them.

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Eleniel
Aessere Lot


Oct 30 2012, 10:06pm

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Sorry, SA... [In reply to] Can't Post

I wanted a second opinion on the Great Goblin because it's hard to be sure it's not a wind-up...

Here's the quote from the interview with Barry Humphries in the Sibley Official Movie Guide:


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Of the throne itself, Barry notes: "Theres a hole in the seat, so it is both a throne and a toilet. The Goblin King is, among other things, grossly incontinent so if he hears the call of nature it doesn't need to interrupt his conversation and, from time to time, a beautifully crafted urn beneath the throne receives a compliment of matter from the Goblin King, generally speaking of ill-digested Dwarf."



Bonus spoiler: Barry also goes on to say that he was particularly gratified to discover that the Great Goblin has a song to sing:


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"I'm convinced that it will be a huge hit," he says. "It will top the charts, as the young folk would express it. It could even go platinum. It is a song of extreme aggression: a hate-filled number, which the children will enjoy and senior citizens will appreciate. It's entirely about destruction, death and torture. But I try to do it in a sympathetic way. I've tried, as a matter of fact, to bring out the loveable side of my character - although this attempt has been a total failure."



Since the whole tone of the interview is conducted in this vein, I leave it up to our esteemed members to decide whether Mr Humphries is pulling anyone's leg here... Angelic


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort






dave_lf
Rodnog

Oct 30 2012, 10:46pm

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Psychic? [In reply to] Can't Post


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Have convinced me that there will be lots of toilet humor


Ha ha ha!


Sinister71
Aessere Lot


Oct 31 2012, 1:28am

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Oh I really hope the Goblins DON"T sing [In reply to] Can't Post

bad, bad, Awfully terribly horribly bad idea IMOCrazyMadUnsure

That's one rumor I surely hope is false and in jest


Lusitano
Aessere Lot


Oct 31 2012, 2:54am

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smash whip crack [In reply to] Can't Post

But ...they do sing in the novel.


Sinister71
Aessere Lot


Oct 31 2012, 2:58am

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I'm not a total purist [In reply to] Can't Post

LOL... Besides I think it takes away from the menacing appearance of the orcs/Goblins IMO. Angelic So that's a change I can live with non singing orcs/goblins


Shelob'sAppetite
Ronilav

Oct 31 2012, 3:34am

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Perfectly consistent with PJ's tendency to paint a Mona Lisa [In reply to] Can't Post

And then throw crap all over it!

Here, we have what is to my mind some wonderful news that the goblins will, in fact, sing. Followed by some truly atrocious news that the Great Goblin will (poop) and talk at the same time.

To be perfectly honest, I am not surprised in the least! With Peter Jackson, you usually get both music and feces! Smile


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DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 31 2012, 7:56am

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Let's hope it is edited out! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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DanielLB
Latrommi


Oct 31 2012, 7:57am

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I think he's being truthful about both spoilers [In reply to] Can't Post

But probably exaggerating them slightly. I think it will be interesting to hear the Great Goblin sing, especially if it is "Snap! Clap! The black crack" song.

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dave_lf
Rodnog

Oct 31 2012, 12:43pm

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"Snap! Clap! The black crack" [In reply to] Can't Post

(which may take on an entirely different meaning)


Fardragon
NahoR

Oct 31 2012, 1:18pm

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Plop! Slop! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

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