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Elessar
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Oct 25 2012, 1:53pm
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I'm going hunting this weekend to get me a copy or two. Hopefully the IPad version will be ready tonight so I can read it because it sounds like we're getting some good info. God! I cannot wait for this movie as I truly feel as if this trilogy will be every bit as great as the LOTR was and that makes me misty eyed with happiness. 
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DanielLB
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Oct 25 2012, 2:05pm
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- Bilbo is sneezed on by a Troll
- There will be a prologue
- Saruman is "up to no good"
- They are digitally de-aging some of the returning actors
- Gloin carries around a picture of his son and wife
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stoutfiles
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Oct 25 2012, 2:09pm
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Saruman is "up to no good"
The film needs to convey that Saurman is stalling so that he can find the Ring. I know the problem with this is that the Ring should not be a big deal in The Hobbit, but the audience already knows it is so no point in hiding it.
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Carne
Dor-Lomin
Oct 25 2012, 2:09pm
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I actually don't mind de-aging
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Both Ian Holm and Christopher Lee looked considerably older in the trailer and vlog.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Oct 25 2012, 2:17pm
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1. Where are the scans?
2. Where are the scans?
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 25 2012, 2:20pm
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so much to process!
so there is a prologue?
I wonder how dwarven history flashback will function within the frame story?
maybe Bilbo and Frodo are at Rivendell with Gimli and old Gloin?
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien
"Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas
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DanielLB
Elvenhome
Oct 25 2012, 2:21pm
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- There's a food fight at Bag End (the magazine says with Baggins, so I'm assume at Bag End)
- Bifur is mentally-challenged and only speaks in Dwarvish. Something happens to his axe, but he can't say what.
- William Kircher plays Tom
- Elijah Wood filmed scenes in London, with Ian Holm
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Carne
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Oct 25 2012, 2:23pm
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So Peter Hambleton is Bert or William?
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DanielLB
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Oct 25 2012, 2:25pm
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And another one of the Dwarf actors is the other Troll as well.
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Edit: It just says they are mo-capping the Trolls. It doesn't say whether they are providing the voices.
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Fardragon
Nargothrond
Oct 25 2012, 2:26pm
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is in the Shire, the day before the party. That was revealed in the first trailer.
That might be the prologue. Alternatively, the prologue might be Smaug's attack on Erebor and Dale.
Any other bits of dwarven history will probably get slotted in as the Travelling Party travel between the Shire and the Trollshaws, similar to Aragorn's flashbacks whilst travelling from Edoras to Helms Deep.
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There&ThereAgain
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Oct 25 2012, 2:30pm
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"hints the dragon will make a fleeting appearance in the first film, most likely in the prologue, and will remain as liquid tongued as the book's memorable villain (he is a character not a monster)."
This indicates that there might be a more extensive prologue of Dwarven History before the start of the frame or hobbit story proper...
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien
"Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas
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Fardragon
Nargothrond
Oct 25 2012, 2:34pm
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but it could just as easily be later, when Thorin explains the quest to Bilbo.
And it won't feature much more than the dragon attack - especially if it's at the start.
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There&ThereAgain
Nargothrond
Oct 25 2012, 2:36pm
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I understand that The Hobbit frame bit is at Bilbo's party
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but again, that quote indicates that Smaug will appear in A PROLOGUE of some sort, and prologues usually occur at the beginning of a film, if I'm not mistaken. 
Maybe the fireworks display will remind Bilbo of Smaug, and we will get a flashback that way. 
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien
"Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas
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DanielLB
Elvenhome
Oct 25 2012, 2:38pm
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- There is a "little lovely scene" between Elrond and Bilbo
- Hugo Weaving hints he might have some sort of role in the BO5A , but is unsure since Elrond isn't present in the book.
- Radagast is described as a kind of "herbalist" - looking after the Forest, until he discovers the arrival of "evil"
- Radagast will be in scenes with Galadriel. Lee didn't film any scenes in London which involved Radagast, but there might be some later on.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Oct 25 2012, 2:41pm
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Another spoiler:
"The Lonely Mountain is likely in the third (film)."
I knew it! But that seems to be contradicted by other statements throughout the article...
And, the author states:
"No word on Cirdan the Shipwright."
He does NOT say, however, that Cirdan is definitely not on the Council. He may simply be a non-speaking background character that PJ didn't bother mentioning.
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redgiraffe
Nargothrond
Oct 25 2012, 2:48pm
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it is implied logic redgiraffe.. two great aerial forces, they very likely would have clashed, IMO anyway
My point was that I haven't seen any speculation about this happening in the films even though it seems like a logical and unsurprising way of adapting that part of the battle. When carne said they would battle I simple thought to myself, "well that makes sense. I can't believe we didn't see that one coming!"
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Fardragon
Nargothrond
Oct 25 2012, 3:24pm
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Maybe everyone else felt is was too obvious to be worth mentioning?
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A Far Dragon is the best kind...
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Thoromir
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Oct 25 2012, 3:26pm
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But you dó already have your tickets for December! (I've got nothing whatsoever:s)//
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redgiraffe
Nargothrond
Oct 25 2012, 3:33pm
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DanielLB, those links lead me to nowhere! You trying to mess with us?
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Oct 25 2012, 3:36pm
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As Empire may take notice, and ask for them to be taken down.
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painjoiker
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Oct 25 2012, 3:37pm
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Haha! Yeah, I am looking at them right now!
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And Daniel was kind enough to link the scans
So thanks Daniboy! (hopefully he'll see it even though I didn't reply to him)
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