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Goldberry and similar historic examples

Eruonen
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Oct 22 2012, 3:58pm


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"In The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Tolkien describes Goldberry as the seasonal changes in nature.."
""She is the rain and snows that arise from the waters and replenish them again."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsaras
"An Apsara (also spelled as Apsarasa) is a female spirit of the clouds and waters in Hindu and Buddhist mythology........Apsaras are beautiful, supernatural female beings. They are youthful and elegant, and superb in the art of dancing. They are often the wives of the Gandharvas, the court musicians of Indra. They dance to the music made by the Gandharvas, usually in the palaces of the gods, entertain and sometimes seduce gods and men. As caretakers of fallen heroes, they may be compared to the valkyries of Norse mythology. As ethereal beings who inhabit the skies, and are often depicted taking flight, or at service of a god, they may be compared to angels."

Celtic
http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/celticdeities/
Boann - a water goddess.
http://www.lifeasmyth.com/...ther_BoannDagda.html

Germanic
Neck
"The Neck/Nixie (German: Nix/Nixe/Nyx) are shapeshifting water spirits who usually appear in human form. The spirit has appeared in the myths and legends of all Germanic peoples in Europe.[1] "
http://en.wikipedia.org/.../Neck_(water_spirit)

http://en.wikipedia.org/...ied_rhinemaidens.jpg

Finnish
Ved-Ava
"Ved-ava is a water deity, common to several Baltic and Finno-Ugric peoples traditionally dependent on fishing. She is also sometimes associated with fertility. She is generally depicted as a water creature resembling a mermaid, with long hair, large breasts, and the lower body of a fish complete with tail, and is sometimes said to play or sing, seducing humans with her music.."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ved-ava


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Oct 22 2012, 4:00pm)

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Goldberry and similar historic examples Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 22 2012, 3:58pm
    Sorry, I didn't recognize that quote - geordie Send a private message to geordie Oct 22 2012, 5:14pm
        The source is non-canonical but the spirit seems accurate Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 22 2012, 6:40pm
            Does Nimrodel count as a water spirit also? squire Send a private message to squire Oct 22 2012, 7:34pm
                Oh, come now - 'rape scene'? geordie Send a private message to geordie Oct 22 2012, 8:13pm
                    You are right squire Send a private message to squire Oct 22 2012, 8:35pm
                        Well, geordie Send a private message to geordie Oct 22 2012, 8:43pm
                I think you protect too much... Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 22 2012, 8:43pm
                The elves had some water power as illustrated Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 22 2012, 9:49pm
                    Identity of figure and forms... Evernight Send a private message to Evernight Oct 25 2012, 1:29am
            I may be in a minority here - geordie Send a private message to geordie Oct 22 2012, 8:00pm
                A minority of two Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Oct 22 2012, 8:10pm
                    Thanks! geordie Send a private message to geordie Oct 22 2012, 9:22pm
                Possible but his line by Tolkien is odd - Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 22 2012, 8:21pm
                    Ah, no - at least, I don't think so - geordie Send a private message to geordie Oct 22 2012, 8:40pm
                        How do we interpret "represents the actual seasonal changes" Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Oct 22 2012, 9:15pm
                It's left a little unclear just what she is washing, or how, or where squire Send a private message to squire Oct 22 2012, 8:48pm
    I wonder if Tolkien took some influences Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Oct 22 2012, 9:31pm

 
 
 

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