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What if the Witch-King recovered the Ring?

danmax67
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Oct 17 2012, 9:46pm

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Wouldn't he attempt to keep it for himself? Was he so completely in Sauron's power that he'd simply hand it over? It seems WK is more powerful than, say Aragorn. And Sauron appeared to fear Aragorn coming into possession of the Ring.

While WK doesn't seem to be a mindless thrall, I guess we have to assume he would give it up, though I don't really feel comfortable with this assumption.


Ataahua
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Oct 17 2012, 11:32pm

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who is so enthralled by magic that his substance is trapped in the shadow world would have the ability to undertake any action that doesn't gybe with the wishes of Sauron. I think he has enough independent will to decide what he will do, but only within the bounds placed on him - e.g. Sauron instructs him to find the One Ring, but how he does that is up to him. So keeping the ring for himself is beyond the ability of the Witchking, but he is able to take hold of it to return it to Sauron.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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elevorn
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Oct 18 2012, 1:13pm

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The Nazgul were bound to the power of the ring. they had not the ability to wield or control it once they passed into the shadow world of the wraiths. Their power and life as it were is dependent on the ring. The will of Sauron drove them to seek the ring, but they would not be able to control it as their will is bent solely on service to Sauron.



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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Oct 18 2012, 9:02pm

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It would absolutely impossible for the Witch-King or the other Nazgul to do anything which would deliberately disobey Sauron. The thought just wouldn't even enter their narrow (yet cunning) minds.

No Sauron=No Nazgul.

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.


ElendilTheShort
Gondor


Oct 19 2012, 7:43am

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were enslaved by their Rings, which Sauron held himself. People often forget that the One Ring was in rapport with Sauron, it still exerted his will independant of him and it would take some time for another to bend it's power to their own will, so if the WK possesed it and if it was possible for him to try and use it, Sauron's will would immediately be exerted on the WK and unlike others who may attempt an exercise of such powers retaining their own will, the WK's enslavement would immediately prevent any prolonged attempt.


Sam20
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Oct 26 2012, 11:19pm

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I do agree with lot of what has been said so far. Anyway I think ultimately if the WK got hold of the Ring, he would have handed it to Sauron. He does have will of his own but Nazgul are slave of the Ring and Sauron wield a power over them. It's hard to tell for sure what the WK would really have done, but I don't really see him challenging Sauron the Master of the Ring.


TheBladeGlowsBlue
Rivendell


Oct 31 2012, 7:31am

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they were completely enslaved by the One Ring, and although Sauron forged the ring it does not follow that the WK would automatically hand it over.

If that were true, wouldn't Gollum, Frodo et al do exactly that?

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