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Faenoriel
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Oct 14 2012, 1:21am
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I know there's lots of Fennoscandians up there, but I don't know to what extend 'Mericans identify themselves with their European descent. Do different kinds of German make difference with Bavarian and Prussian, etc?
(I don't know how Swedes pronounce "sauna", but I doubt it's the correct way, because modern Sweden's Swedish doesn't even have diphthongs, really. And they commonly misspell Finnish names with diphthongs - that is, almost all Finnish names. Aaaaaargh! It's second in irritation-o-meter only to spelling ä with ae and ö with oe. Guys, if you can't use the dots, just write a and o instead. Otherwise you get name monsters like Vaeinaemoeinen, Jaeaeskelaeinen or Haeyhae...)
But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied
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dernwyn
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Oct 14 2012, 2:04am
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The English language! It's such a mash of local dialects and various other languages, then over the centuries the pronunciation has gotten "lazy".
And it was the Professor's specialty. I'd love to hear him tell us all about it, and how it evolved!
(Personally, I like German, where everything that's written is actually pronounced.)
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PattyJB
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Oct 14 2012, 3:16am
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In fact, Thranduil and Elrond may be, too. Costuming gods heard my fervent pleas for more leather on the elves!  After all, Legolas is the elf that inspired me to learn what pauldrons are!
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 14 2012, 3:40am
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That's part of what's so great about it
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It is a true living language.
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Maiarmike
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Oct 14 2012, 3:49am
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Thranduil is definitely one elegant looking elf.
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Cool crown too.
Elrond in battle gear? Yeah, that's badass.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
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Faenoriel
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Oct 14 2012, 10:51am
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Your vowels are like an unruly herd of bad behaving kids //
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But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied
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dernwyn
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Oct 14 2012, 12:28pm
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the "ough"s and "augh"s and "igh"s and "ogh"s? Terrors! 
No wonder one of our popular pastimes is the spelling contest...
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
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aifeme
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Oct 14 2012, 8:45pm
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Is Thranduil a fantasy drag queen?
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He looks like it to me...
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Padfoot
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Oct 15 2012, 8:40am
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The English language! It's such a mash of local dialects and various other languages, then over the centuries the pronunciation has gotten "lazy".
And it was the Professor's specialty. I'd love to hear him tell us all about it, and how it evolved!
(Personally, I like German, where everything that's written is actually pronounced.)
I wish it were! 
Believe me, German can be as much a mash of different languages and local dialects as English. (or any other language, I think).
I come from a rural area, where in about 20 villages 20 different dialects are being spoken. (some of them don't even sound similar...) Mostly by the elder people, though. Most of the younger people still can understand the dialects, but stick to speaking standard German.
My sister and I grew up bi-lingual (dialect at home, standard German in kindergarten and school). This proved quite helpful when we started learning the foreign languages in school.
I think that pronounciation gets "lazy" over centuries is a general problem in languages. Also, many languages influence each other. You'd be surprised how much English you'd find in standard German by now, even though some of it may have a completely different meaning in German!
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Fardragon
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Oct 15 2012, 9:05am
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Linguistic drift isn't laziness.
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It's something that happens naturally to all languages, and can only be slowed by a dictatorial central authority (like the French have).
A Far Dragon is the best kind...
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Misto
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Oct 15 2012, 12:54pm
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... that reminds me of a few classmates I had whose first foreign language was German. Because the dialect spoken in rural communities of my home area has next to nothing to do with German. But at least it's only dialect - I lived somewhat close to the Danish border for years and the average local gathering would have people talking in three different officially acknowledged languages... none of them German. Boy, did I ever feel out of place!
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dave_lf
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Oct 15 2012, 1:17pm
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And why your language is so full of consonant clusters?
Hey! Those consonant cluster are why we can play Scrabble.
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