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Ever had one of those 'I never noticed that' moments?
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Oct 7 2012, 10:54pm

Post #1 of 36 (1731 views)
Ever had one of those 'I never noticed that' moments? Can't Post

Last night my friend and I watched Fellowship of the Ring for the first time in ages. I have never counted how many times I have watched the films, and I really wish I had, because it's lots!
Anyway, I had a moment when Frodo placed the ring on the table during the Council of Elrond. It was the first time I really took in his reaction after he put that ring down. He looked so relieved, feeling that this huge burden had been lifted (before everything went haywire). I couldn't believe I hadn't ever really *seen* this before. I guess I've always been busy taking in everything else that is going on in this scene.

The other thing I kept noticing was the beautiful detailing on Bilbo's red waistcoat.

I am so happy that I can enjoy repeat viewings over *gasp* ten years, and still find something fresh each time. Smile

Does anyone have their own 'I never noticed that' moment to share?

Ziggy Stardust

Oct 8 2012, 12:56am

Post #2 of 36 (982 views)
Yes, lots! [In reply to] Can't Post

But I can't remember them all. Blush I haven't noticed Frodo's expression at the Council of Elrond. But a recent example is that I never noticed the orcs talking to eachother as the trolls are opening the gate, which was mentioned in another thread.


Oct 8 2012, 6:59am

Post #3 of 36 (991 views)
Isn't it great that after all these years [In reply to] Can't Post

And after years of multiple viewing, we can still spot something new. One of my most recent "I never noticed that" moments was while watching ROTK. At the Battle of the Black Gate, behind Aragorn, there's a man with an eyepatch on!

And just think, this will happen all over again once The Hobbit is released! Cool

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Oct 8 2012, 1:17pm

Post #4 of 36 (916 views)
I know what you mean... [In reply to] Can't Post

Few days ago, i noticed that the pupils of the eyes of Gollum changes depending on his personality.
There are larger when he is Smeagol and smaller when he is Gollum...
You can also notice this in the new trailer of the Hobbit...

''There is one dwarf yet in Moria, who still draws breath''


Oct 8 2012, 2:56pm

Post #5 of 36 (980 views)
I watched RotK recently, and I noticed Frodo at Aragorn's coronation [In reply to] Can't Post

Has a distant and discontented look on his face. It doesn't quite fit with the happy occasion, but it does fit with his character's ending and the toll that the journey has taken on him.

I was struck this time by how much I liked Frodo in Rotk besides the rather unfortunate incident at Cirith Ungol.


Oct 8 2012, 9:38pm

Post #6 of 36 (850 views)
Actually, [In reply to] Can't Post

I reckon he looks like he's wearing sunglasses. Cool
Great spotting!


Oct 8 2012, 9:40pm

Post #7 of 36 (803 views)
Yes, I had spotted that too [In reply to] Can't Post

It's a great way to add depth to the changes he goes through.


Oct 8 2012, 9:42pm

Post #8 of 36 (813 views)
I will watch out for that at the next viewing [In reply to] Can't Post

Watching FOTR the other night, I couldn't get over how young Elijah Wood looks.


Oct 8 2012, 9:43pm

Post #9 of 36 (858 views)
Orcs talking [In reply to] Can't Post

That's another one I hadn't noticed either, so I will be looking out for it next time.


Oct 8 2012, 9:55pm

Post #10 of 36 (823 views)
He must have forgotten to take them off after the Annatar deleted scene ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post


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Oct 9 2012, 2:08am

Post #11 of 36 (837 views)
It's Snake Plisken! [In reply to] Can't Post

Clearly after escaping New York, he did not go on to make a bad sequel, but instead chose to fight for the glory of men in Middle-Earth!


Oct 9 2012, 2:41am

Post #12 of 36 (759 views)
Brilliant! [In reply to] Can't Post

I like this. Cool


Oct 9 2012, 3:35am

Post #13 of 36 (843 views)
The BluRays really had an impact on me... [In reply to] Can't Post

It was not so much the stuff I was seeing, but the stuff I was hearing! All the hobbit chatter at the party....the clink of the armor in a lot of scenes..the breathing of the characters when they are running or under stress...I could go on and on.

I haven't had a chance to do this for a while, but I used to watch the films and focus just on one character each time -- Aragorn, Frodo, Sam, etc. -- I found that when I did that I would see so many subtle things in terms of expression or movement or reaction that I never picked up when I was trying to take in the story as a whole.

And now you have me wanting to watch the films again! Thanks for the inspiration! Smile



Oct 9 2012, 9:14am

Post #14 of 36 (779 views)
I love that idea [In reply to] Can't Post

Focusing on one character is something I will definitely try.
I'm sure I miss a lot when I am watching any scenes featuring horses, because I am so busy just focusing on them. Smile

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Oct 9 2012, 1:33pm

Post #15 of 36 (813 views)
Someone said:Did you see that movie?, and someone answered: I´ve been living in this film for a long time [In reply to] Can't Post

This is what happens to me with this films, everytime I enter in this world it´s forests are still freshWink

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Nor will I be responsible for his fate - Doh!


Oct 9 2012, 4:14pm

Post #16 of 36 (750 views)
Funnily enough - that wasn't what I was looking at ;-)// [In reply to] Can't Post


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Oct 10 2012, 3:32am

Post #17 of 36 (630 views)
do try it! [In reply to] Can't Post

Though just watching the horses might be kind of fun, too!

I found that Sam, especially, was great to watch, and Viggo, of course is always worth watching! Smile


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea

Oct 10 2012, 4:00am

Post #18 of 36 (739 views)
Just noticed that when Gandalf introduces Shadowfax as the "Lord of All Horses" [In reply to] Can't Post

Gimli gives a deep, reverential bow in the background. I felt it gave a bit more depth to Gimli for some strange reason.

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4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
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2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Oct 10 2012, 7:16am

Post #19 of 36 (643 views)
I think I will start with Viggo [In reply to] Can't Post

Just sayin.' Angelic


Oct 10 2012, 12:41pm

Post #20 of 36 (661 views)
I thought the opposite, actually [In reply to] Can't Post

He seemed about as comfortable putting the Ring on the table as I would be putting my smartphone on railroad tracks. He continues to stare at it throughout the council, he's pained when Gimli tries to destroy it, and he immediately volunteers to take the Ring because he wants to have it again.

The Ring had him by then. He thought he would get relief from getting the Ring to Rivendell, and then to Mordor, but both times he couldn't go through the act of leaving/destroying it.


Oct 10 2012, 7:10pm

Post #21 of 36 (613 views)
I agree with you to a certain extent [In reply to] Can't Post

What I interpreted as relief is very short lived. I think he realises pretty quickly that his role is nowhere near over.
I wouldn't say he volunteers to take the ring because he wants to have it again though.


Oct 11 2012, 3:23am

Post #22 of 36 (541 views)
ha! yes, I always start there too!// [In reply to] Can't Post



Ereinion Nénharma

Oct 11 2012, 1:16pm

Post #23 of 36 (562 views)
I liked that moment too... [In reply to] Can't Post

but I also would have liked it if the other horses present in those scene would bow to their lord. It would have added depth to them (and other Middle Earth animals) too, that they are not 'just' animals, but are more sentient too.

''Do not fear the shadows, for seeing them means light is near...''


Oct 11 2012, 3:34pm

Post #24 of 36 (563 views)
Good point [In reply to] Can't Post

Hard to tell what a person's motives are when they are under the Ring's influence. Things aren't always what they seem. Did Frodo volunteer out of a desire to do good, on the surface, when deep down he really kind of wanted the Ring back? I think that question is raised even with Sam when he asks to help Frodo with the Ring. Was he really, really just wanting to help Frodo or was the Ring working on him on some level too?

And P.S., I liked your 'putting my smartphone on the railroad tracks' comparison, lol. Very descriptive Smile.

Valandil ed Imladris

Oct 11 2012, 10:24pm

Post #25 of 36 (558 views)
I found two new things (for me) [In reply to] Can't Post

in FOTR: Gandalf is dancing in the background at Bilbo's birthday.
and in TTT: Wormtongue cries slightly when he see's the Uruk-Hai army of Saruman. That's interesting!

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