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So has anyone else ever felt this...


Oct 6 2012, 12:45am

Post #1 of 14 (1344 views)
So has anyone else ever felt this... Can't Post

While watching TTT tonight, I was reminded of something I've always kind of felt...when Sam and Frodo first see the Black Gate, the camera shows a close up of the gate and the orcs standing on top of it. Two orcs are engaged in a conversation, and for some reason I get the feeling that they are talking about something that is not at all work related...

I can almost hear the shorter one complaining, "So then you're not going to believe what she did next..." or "My mother in law is in town, what a pain..."

In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.

Ziggy Stardust

Oct 6 2012, 12:59am

Post #2 of 14 (697 views)
LOL [In reply to] Can't Post

Which scene is this? I didn't notice the orcs at the top gate. Is this in the Extended Editions? Anyway, I'll have to see this scene. They could even be arguing about orc stuff like, "Which do you prefer tender man-flesh or tough man-flesh?" Or maybe even something totally off the wall like this


Oct 6 2012, 1:03am

Post #3 of 14 (747 views)
When the gate is opened by the trolls [In reply to] Can't Post

You can see a number of orcs on the walls, and two of them are talking to each other. Pretty hard to miss.


Oct 6 2012, 2:54am

Post #4 of 14 (669 views)
They're just hanging out... [In reply to] Can't Post

...letting the trolls do all their dirty work.
Goes to show that evil and lazy slaves will never get your ring back.

'What are we holding on to, Sam?'
'There's good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!'

'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!'

Ziggy Stardust

Oct 6 2012, 3:25am

Post #5 of 14 (698 views)
Really? [In reply to] Can't Post

How did I miss that? I'm gonna look for them next time.


Oct 6 2012, 8:11am

Post #6 of 14 (620 views)
They're probably wondering how a camera is floating in Middle-earth ;-) / [In reply to] Can't Post


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Oct 6 2012, 12:23pm

Post #7 of 14 (788 views)
they have probably [In reply to] Can't Post

just gone outside to smoke some Longbottom leaf, as BaradDur has a no smoking policy.


Oct 6 2012, 4:52pm

Post #8 of 14 (691 views)
Hahahaha [In reply to] Can't Post

"If the Witch King thinks I'm coming in on Saturday to watch the gate, he's got another thing coming. I've got tix to go see the Battle of the Bands down by the Lake of Nurnen."

In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.


Oct 6 2012, 7:18pm

Post #9 of 14 (674 views)
or [In reply to] Can't Post

Krasnak. '' phew dont ask the boss for a day off, the last guy got his head bitten off for asking''.
Grisnak. ''yeah I hears Orc tastes a bit like pork''.
Krasnak. .gulp.


Oct 6 2012, 8:17pm

Post #10 of 14 (707 views)
And what the Eye doesn't catch, the Mouth inhales.// [In reply to] Can't Post


Tol Eressea

Oct 7 2012, 9:23pm

Post #11 of 14 (627 views)
I never understood how running in behind the [In reply to] Can't Post

Southron army as the gate closes was a good idea.

It is unlikely nobody was stationed on the interior of the gate. Plus, it was broad daylight.

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens

Oct 9 2012, 2:01pm

Post #12 of 14 (593 views)
What about the last Easterns of the line that are entering the Black Gate when itīs getting closed? [In reply to] Can't Post

I can imagine this two orcs watching the Harads below laughing: Look at those two!

And this poor bugars who were near to find the ring are coming back to the line before the gate gets closed behind their feetTongue

I can not guarantee his safety - understood...
Nor will I be responsible for his fate - Doh!


Oct 14 2012, 4:35am

Post #13 of 14 (458 views)
It's certainly not how it was described in the book [In reply to] Can't Post

In the book, Sam and Pippin simply approach the Black Gate, have no clear idea of how they are going to get in, and are then offered Gollum's alternative route. I still cannot understand why PJ had Frodo and Sam actually start to run for the closing gate in broad daylight. A baffling decision.


Oct 16 2012, 2:27am

Post #14 of 14 (778 views)
Ha ha good point [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, that was a pretty silly idea...they could have tried waiting til night, or figuring out some way of disguising themselves as Orcs, Easterlings, Southrons, etc. Maybe PJ just needed to have them do it so Gollum could stop them...IDK.

In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.


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