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Warner Bros. confirms Hobbit extended edition
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Pipe Dream
Mithlond


Oct 5 2012, 12:06am

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Hummm... [In reply to] Can't Post

Good news to be sure, but I wonder when the press release was made, before or after the decision to make two films into three?

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HiddenSpring
Menegroth

Oct 5 2012, 1:42am

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Heh [In reply to] Can't Post

I think all of this applies to 85% of the added scenes in the (LotR) extended editions.

Considering The Hobbit has now somehow been turned into a trilogy, I suspect the additions to the upcoming EEs will be extra-extraneous. Like, Bombur farts galore or something like that. There will be no great scenes added because there is absolutely no excuse this time to leave a great scene out of the theatrical editions. That means nothing like the Faramir-Boromir scenes, or anything as evocative as the passing of the elves in FotR. I really hope they treat the theatrical versions as the definitive versions, because they can certainly afford to do that this time. Any other approach would be gravely cynical.


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If you listen to the LotR commentaries, a relatively small number of the extra scenes were cut due to time. Most were cut because:
  • They were redundant or just didn't add anything
  • They messed up the pacing
  • They didn't fit with the tone of the film
  • They damaged characters
  • They weren't very good
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 1:42am

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Shades of Kingdom of Heaven... [In reply to] Can't Post

I do fear that WB will pull a similar bad move to the studio-mandated theatrical cut of Kingdom of Heaven, which was downright awful compared to the director's cut.

Also, when did the film become "The Unexpected Journey" versus "An Unexpected Journey?"

Is that just a typo in the logo TORN is using?


Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 1:48am

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Dwarf history will certainly be in the theatrical cut [In reply to] Can't Post

The history they are using is very important for illuminating both the rationale behind the quest, and the personal animosity between the dwarves and goblins. Almost none of this will be axed (pun intended) for the theatrical version, because it sits at the center of the main antagonisms in the film. That is almost guaranteed, IMO.

They might shave some of it off, but no way it all goes.


Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 1:50am

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After the three-film announcement [In reply to] Can't Post

Some more filming was done for AUJ, involving Bolg in particular. Just an FYI.


Eye's on Guard
Menegroth


Oct 5 2012, 1:55am

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Good to hear! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hope it's substantial enough to make a difference in the EE. Smile


Mooseboy018
Hithlum


Oct 5 2012, 3:07am

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logo [In reply to] Can't Post

I was wondering about it too...Unsure

I'm pretty sure that's an old fan made logo from a while ago, so it's probably not official.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 3:32am

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That was 20th Century Fox, not WB [In reply to] Can't Post

WB has had success with longish films; I don't see any reason to believe that they will do that.

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GoodGuyA
Menegroth

Oct 5 2012, 3:32am

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Kingdom of Heaven was the case because [In reply to] Can't Post

Studios just hate Ridley Scott Tongue Don't know what it is about the guy. The man just likes to put him down every time he shows them up. The Hobbit is an established brand and PJ as a great amount of control over it, so I doubt they're going to slice out "necessary content" like was done with Kingdom of Heaven (which was R rated, period piece, and a bit high minded in and of itself). What we will see on screen will perhaps be more complete to some eyes than Fellowship was, though your mileage will vary on what "complete" really is. They will undoubtedly break the two hour mark, though I don't know by how much.


Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 4:41am

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I think the Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

And certainly LOTR, are just as high minded as Kingdom of Heaven (if not more so).


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 5 2012, 7:03am

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That would be too costly [In reply to] Can't Post

Just for a couple of EE scenes.

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TheRealBeren
Ossiriand

Oct 5 2012, 7:19am

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?! [In reply to] Can't Post

Can you also predict how many Razzie awards will The Hobbit win?Seriously, did you even read the book?3:25?!


pulpfiction16
Ossiriand

Oct 5 2012, 8:27am

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They did it for the RoTK EE [In reply to] Can't Post

Remember the classic anecdote about how they were filming after the movie had already won best picture? That was done solely for the EE.

Besides, remember they're doing pick-ups and a few months of extra filming next year, it's not exactly hard for them to shoot some more sound stage stuff. (Location might be a different story, but considering that even Rivendel is in the studio now, I imagine they have a lot of freedom).

Pretty much at this point, if Peter wants it, he'll get it. And if not, they'll just sneak it into the fine print of the schedules ; )


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 5 2012, 8:39am

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This is true [In reply to] Can't Post

If they've already got the actors required down there, and the sets, then a couple of re-shot or new scenes wouldn't break the bank, would it? And EE sales must be through the roof anyway.

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Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 5 2012, 9:35am

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Your enthusiasm is so very genuine and infectious B-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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Sunflower
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 9:55am

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Um... [In reply to] Can't Post

shouldn't that be "Warner Brothers Platinum Edition"?Evil


Sunflower
Doriath

Oct 5 2012, 9:59am

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What scene [In reply to] Can't Post

were they finishing for that BTW? Yes, I remember that ancedote at the time...thought it was hilarious...until the EE came out...and I was floored.

And Captain Salt...my thoughts exactly (posting in the wrong thread as usual with first reactions....:)
But Bombadil I agree....I wish I could have your blind optimism! I am really curious now!

(Please, let the running times be 2 hrs 25 mins or something....I can live with that!)


guitarzankansasfan
Menegroth


Oct 5 2012, 11:04am

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Your packshot will go viral and get used by news organizations [In reply to] Can't Post

Just like that fake Smaug poster that turned up in a news article.

There was a man.
There was a lady.
There was a Dragon Lord.


Elessar
Doriath


Oct 5 2012, 11:09am

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Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

I just love middle-earth. It means a lot to me and is one of my major stress reliefs to get through rough patches. :)



Bombadil
Gondolin


Oct 5 2012, 11:11am

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The scene that they working on? After they Won [In reply to] Can't Post

Was the the Skull avalanche in Paths of the Dead
I believe.

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late in the Commentaries
of ROTK


grammaboodawg
Elvenhome


Oct 5 2012, 11:14am

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Yeah.... a few times ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 5 2012, 11:24am

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They should've spent more time on it! [In reply to] Can't Post

Definitely a scene that should have had even more added on to it. The EE scenes are Crazy

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Marionette
Nargothrond


Oct 5 2012, 3:37pm

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Expecting a lot [In reply to] Can't Post

Yay Sly

Well, hopefully there will be sustancial material from the appendices.

Only the Hobbit book for three movies and EE... they must be adding some juicy stuff from the appendices, hopefully


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Lindele
Mithlond


Oct 5 2012, 6:23pm

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Can anybody confirm this? [In reply to] Can't Post

What is the source? Everything I've read/seen leads to nowhere.
And as Shelob said, the logo is fake....
Where is the press release?


DanielLB
Elvenhome


Oct 5 2012, 6:30pm

Post #75 of 90 (587 views)
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The logo is up to whoever wrote the TORn article [In reply to] Can't Post

The original article is here. I can't find any Warner Bros. announcement.

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Oct 5 2012, 6:31pm)

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