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When are we likely to know the running length?
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 5:46pm

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When are we likely to know the running length? Can't Post

Can some of you who follow cinema more closely than I do say how long before the release of a film it is common for the film to rated and for the running length to be announced publicly? Does anyone recall how long before the release of the LOTR films, particularly FOTR, it was known?

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 5:58pm

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Trawling TORn archive again [In reply to] Can't Post

But there aren't many definitive answers. For a comparison, the running length for TTT was (kind of) confirmed on 2nd November 2002. See here.

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Fàfnir
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 5:59pm

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I was hesitating to create this thread myself ! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Gondor


Oct 4 2012, 6:08pm

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I'd say [In reply to] Can't Post

Theatrical = 2.5
Extended = 3

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 6:12pm

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I'm not looking for estimates [In reply to] Can't Post

We've already had a couple of threads where people have made guesses or estimates at how long it will be. What I am asking for is different; information about when we are likely to actually know the answer.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 6:14pm

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Except that that information is wrong! [In reply to] Can't Post

First of all, thanks for looking. However, that reported running length of 2 hours and 43 minutes is quite a bit shorter than the actual running length. So I guess we probably have quite a bit of time before we get any solid information. So what it tells us is that as of the beginning of November, we are still not likely to know the answer!

Still hoping for information about when official running lengths were announced.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 6:17pm

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That's the best I could do :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

It still gives us an idea of when we could expect to find out. Though it was 10 years ago. Information is much more freely available (and retrievable) these days.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 6:19pm

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I do appreciate it! [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry if I came across as ungrateful. Every little bit of information helps.

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The Hall of Fire


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 6:21pm

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Oh it's alright Voronwë! [In reply to] Can't Post

I didn't mean to suggest you weren't Laugh.

I'm still scouring the internet! There must be somewhere that has the first report of running lengths Smile

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 6:25pm

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I can't find anything [In reply to] Can't Post

But I have confidence in your scouring skills!

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The Hall of Fire


Arandir
Gondor


Oct 4 2012, 6:28pm

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We will know on the 28th of November ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Since you needed a date, I've proposed one for you.

The reasoning behind it (probably wrong though), is that 'The Dark Knight Rises' (a Warner Bros picture), was released on the 20th of July. It's running time was announced on July 3rd - so 18 days before release.

Thus, using simple maths, from 14th December going back 18 days gives you: Monday, 28th November (as a rough estimate).

If I'm right with my guess, can I get a free premiere ticket to 'The Hobbit'?Laugh


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 6:32pm

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Thanks, Arandir [In reply to] Can't Post

That's good information. However, it is also true that the world premier of the first film will be on November 28, so we will certainly know by that date if not before! Actually, since November 28 in New Zealand where the premiere will be is actually November 27 here on the west coast of the U.S., we should know before 11/28!!

Maybe it will be 18 days before the world premiere, and we will know by November 10.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


stoutfiles
Rohan

Oct 4 2012, 6:33pm

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I heard just barely over 2 hours [In reply to] Can't Post

Which would make sense AUJ was likely shot as a 3+ hour movie to the barrels, and then cut at the Eagles taking an hour off the run time.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 4 2012, 6:34pm

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Probably a few weeks prior to release. [In reply to] Can't Post

Middle of November-ish would be my guess. Probably around that time is the deadline.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 6:35pm

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Thanks, Estel [In reply to] Can't Post

I think that is a reasonable guess!

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


Arandir
Gondor


Oct 4 2012, 6:39pm

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Well, my local cinema DOES list it as a 2hr film ... so who knows // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


DanielLB
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Oct 4 2012, 6:40pm

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You have high hopes indeed! [In reply to] Can't Post

But I had some success. The running time was definitely known by 16th November 2012.

That really is the best I can do. Laugh Tongue

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dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 4 2012, 7:12pm

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As late as possible [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes; they won't be done editing until the the 59th minute of the 11th hour, if history repeats itself.


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 7:48pm

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Lol good one DJ. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 8:19pm

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Didn't mean to be rude! [In reply to] Can't Post

I realized after the fact that my original response to you might have seemed a little rude. That wasn't my intention. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't looking for another "how long to do you think the movie will be?" thread. For the record, my expectation is about the same as yours, although I am somewhat concerned about the reports that it will be 2 hours.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


The Grey Pilgrim
Lorien


Oct 4 2012, 9:44pm

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Well tickets go on sale Nov. 7th [In reply to] Can't Post

So perhaps we'll know by/before then?


DanielLB
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Oct 4 2012, 9:48pm

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That was supposed to be 2001 [In reply to] Can't Post

Why I typed 2012 I don't know .... Unimpressed

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 10:10pm

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Ah, good point! [In reply to] Can't Post

One one would think that they would have to know how long the film is to put tickets on sale, wouldn't they?

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 11:21pm

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The running time is entirely dependent upon... [In reply to] Can't Post

knowing when they lock picture. Not knowing exactly where they are in post makes it hard to know.

Ultimately the duration of the film doesn't change after that point. Everything thereafter if considered apart of the finishing stage.

I imagine they are working furiously to get to that point.

Smile

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Tol Eressea


Oct 5 2012, 12:57am

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I guess we'll soon find out [In reply to] Can't Post

I wonder how many people are going to assume the movie is going to be terrible based on the running time.

I say that with no malice, it really is kinda interesting to see how other people form their opinions.

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