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grammaboodawg
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Oct 3 2012, 5:39pm
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**The Hobbit Geeky Observation Lists** call for contributions!!
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If you would like to contribute to TORn's official Hobbit Geeky Observation Lists, now is the time to really get going! I've been working on the list since last year laying the foundation and making a few entries in my home files; but I've been waiting until now to ask you all to unleash your observations of what you've seen during the creative and filming process of Peter Jackson's adaptation/storytelling of The Hobbit.
If you're not sure what the Geeky Observation Lists are all about, please follow the link in my footer to see The Lord of the Rings' Geeky Observations Lists and what they entail. Essentially, during the theatrical viewings of LotR, TORn members would split at the seams (as we have for The Hobbit) talking about all they saw and heard. Every little detail was something to share or discuss. The lists are just a place to put all of those treasures.
Please keep your entries to one line if possible, but post as many as you like! These are short little notes and not a discussion of details. Don't worry about posting something someone else may have already offered. I'll sort through and get them all straightened out. I do my best to use your entries as you write them, but I may need to edit them from time-to-time. These are YOUR lists… not mine. I'm just the gatherer :)
From now until…. oh say… 2015, I'll occasionally post a call for observations here where you can feel free to add to the lists. It will really get crazy once each film is released!! *twitch* The Hobbit Discussion Board will be wild by then, so I'll ask that we keep the observations for the lists confined to my request posts… just so I make sure I don't miss anything :) I'll update the google site constantly during those busy times so you can see all the details and observations as the lists evolve.
Ready? So, here goes…
Please share any little details or observations you've made from what we've seen so far in pictures, trailers, or Peter's vlogs as they relate to what could (or will) potentially be in the films. Please specify which film you think it will be in using one of these film titles or numbers.
#1 - An Unexpected Journey
#2 - The Desolation of Smaug
#3 - There and Back Again
Each list will include:
The Main Lists of Geeky Observations, ultimately according to Chapter Title. The chapter titles will first be determined by the content of the film in relation to book chapters (here at the start of making the lists), then by the soundtrack titles for the films (usually released before each movie), then according to the DVD chapter titles (unless we're happy with the way they are :)
Then there are the "There's room for a little more" Geeky Observations Lists. These are a compilation of all the things that are spotted throughout all 3 films, but do not fall under the storyline (or plotline). Some of the LotR entries include:
Multiple duty: Cast work on more than one character
Dialogue translations
Misheard lines
Injuries
Calligraphy
Songs/music
Switched lines: Lines given from one character in the book to a different character in the film
Recurrence / repeats / parallel scenes / phrases / seeing/hearing double in LotR (Words & images repeated in the trilogy)
Homages or Likened to other films
Costumes
Cameos
Written in the Red Book of Westmarch
Inscriptions
and still to come: Weapons, Filming timelines, and Cast and Crew Credits
Thanks lots… and have fun :)
gramma
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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Bumblingidiot
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Oct 3 2012, 6:17pm
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What is a geeky, and where are we supposed to be looking for them?
Ahora nosotros hablan Ingles, or something.
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Oct 4 2012, 1:10am
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and pms are just fine! But don't worry about a finished product. I'll be putting everything together on one massive list and working with that.
Even after this post has dropped off the boards, I'll still be hunting this post down and watching for additions.
You saw the lists before?!? Cool :D
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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grammaboodawg
Elvenhome
Oct 4 2012, 1:15am
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**I'll Check This Post After It Drops Off The Page!!**
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So please feel free to keep adding to this thread if you want to. I'll be keeping track of it until I post another new thread in 2-3 weeks. DanielLB asked if it was okay to pm items to me, and that's completely fine, too :)
Thanks All!
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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Magpie
Elvenhome
Oct 4 2012, 1:30am
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from the list I did for the home page article
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in this shot:
http://www-images.theonering.org/images/hobbittrailer02/hobbittrailer02-011.jpg
The houses we can see at the bottom of the hill with one red door and one yellow door (or is this just two doors for one house?) is the same one we see at the end of ROTK when Sam comes home to Rosie, Elanor, and little Frodo. We can presume this is the Gamgee's house.
http://www.framecaplib.com/lotrlib/html/episodes/images/rotk/rotk2518.htm
LOTR soundtrack website ~ magpie avatar gallery
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Arwen's daughter
Gondolin
Oct 4 2012, 4:09am
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Alright, here's my list of hood colors - book vs. movie
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Let me know if there's a way you'd like me to reformat this or if anyone has additions, wants links, etc.
Thorin Oakenshield
- book: sky blue hood w/ a silver tassel
- movie: no hood seen yet, dark blue tunic
Dwalin
- book: green hooded cloak (note: his is the only one described as being attached to the cloak)
- movie: brown/black? hooded cloak
Balin
- book: scarlet hood
- movie: scarlet robes, no evidence of a hood yet
Kili
- book: blue hood
- movie: blue hood attached to shirt
Fili
- book: blue hood
- movie: brown hood attached to shirt
Dori
- book: purple hood
- movie: purple hooded cloak
Nori
- book: purple hood
- movie: dark gray hooded cloak
Ori
- book: gray hood
- movie: gray hooded scarf
Oin
- book: brown hood
- movie: gray cloak, gray hooded scarf
Gloin
- book: white hood
- movie: brown/gray hooded cloak w/ red leather & white fur trimming
Bifur
- book: yellow hood
- movie: mustard yellow hooded cloak
Bofur
- book: yellow hood
- movie: brown hat, brown hooded cloak, mustard yellow tunic
Bombur
- book: pale green hood
- movie: olive green hooded cloak
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SirDennisC
Gondolin
Oct 4 2012, 4:49am
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Not sure if it will happen in the films, but both Glamdring and Orchrist appear to glow:
Glamdring has a blue glow in the image seen here: http://filmcellsltd.com/...cellstdusfc5909.aspx
Orcrist has a halo effect or white glow as seen here: http://www.tolkiendrim.com/...elle-pour-le-hobbit/
Glamdring did not glow in PJ's LOTR, though many believe it should have.
I'm not sure if this qualifies for the list but it is a geeky observation: way back when Rob Kazinski was still attached the dwarves were training with bokken (Japanese wooden katanas) rather than axes. We here at TORn thought it strange at the time since we expected they would use axes same as Gimli. As it turns out, a few of the dwarves do indeed use swords rather than axes.
hmmm while I'm thinking of it, some of us were expecting Orchrist to be similar to Glamdring (for instance a long sword) because they are thought to be sister blades. However, in spite of its asymetrical design, it seems the film makers envisioned Orchrist and Sting as a set instead.
(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Oct 4 2012, 4:53am)
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Xanaseb
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Oct 4 2012, 9:34am
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well, whenever there's been Runes I've tried to transcribe.... but it ends up not being in Cirth at all but in Old English runes....
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... which saddens me greatly... I'd rather they use Cirth Erebor.
Do you remember the K I N G D O M thing?: Here
Then there's the runes on these Dwarf dudes: Here
but they're proving impossible too..... though some interesting conclusions from that thread.
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Xanaseb
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Oct 4 2012, 9:49am
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Thorin's Key has "Durin's Heir" written on it in Futhark once again (thanks to DJ for that): Here
Oh and the 'Kingdom' runes would most likely indicate 'Kingdom of Erebor', Thus it's probably masonry within the Mountain.
Might be somewhere else though.
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Fardragon
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Oct 4 2012, 3:14pm
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Gimli uses several. The one he smashes on the ring seems most probable.
A Far Dragon is the best kind...
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Fàfnir
Nargothrond
Oct 4 2012, 3:23pm
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Now that we will see it during all the Hobbit
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the destruction of this axe will be a very tragic moment.
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