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Tauriel: possible flash sideways?
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Elenorflower
Mithlond


Sep 26 2012, 11:06am

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hence [In reply to] Can't Post

3 films instead of 2.


Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Sep 26 2012, 7:19pm

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Too many "musts" in there [In reply to] Can't Post

Good filmmakers know the rules of script-writing, and film-making, but also know when and how to break them.

There are no real "musts" in film.


Jettorex
Menegroth


Sep 26 2012, 7:52pm

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What?!? [In reply to] Can't Post

How is the reasoning for including Tauriel for "afirmative action" and/or "cheesecake"?

PB herself gave us the answer-simply: there aren't enough female charactors/"energy". Whats so hard to understand?

And what is a "Seven of Nine"?


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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome


Sep 26 2012, 9:03pm

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Toys... [In reply to] Can't Post

Warner Bros. survived the African-American Robin action figure when the character never appeared in Batman Returns. It is not going to be that a big deal to have the Tauriel and Legolas figures associated with An Unexpected Journey.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome


Sep 26 2012, 9:07pm

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FYI [In reply to] Can't Post


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And what is a "Seven of Nine"?



Seven of Nine was the former Borg, played by actress Jeri Ryan, who was taken aboard the Federation starship Voyager in the Star Trek: Voyager television series.

You're welcome.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


Captain Salt
Dor-Lomin


Sep 26 2012, 9:10pm

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As far as I'm aware, Leggy and Tauriel are the only AUJ figures [In reply to] Can't Post

possibly along with Fimbul, which will not appear in Film 1 - everyone else is accounted for. So agreed, it seems like just a discrepancy as a result of the late-in-the-day trilogy shift.

A far more subtle example as Grima's TTT figure coming with a dagger, despite the fact we never actually saw this particular prop until 2 years later with the RotK:EE.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Fardragon
Nargothrond

Sep 27 2012, 2:27pm

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I was disappointed to discover that the title of this thread [In reply to] Can't Post

didn't refer to her costume...

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Phibbus
Nargothrond


Sep 27 2012, 2:37pm

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Hehe [In reply to] Can't Post

Incorrigible male that I am, I must confess I would find that a more satisfying reveal.

Man is but an ass if he go about to expound this dream.


Elenorflower
Mithlond


Sep 27 2012, 9:58pm

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specially [In reply to] Can't Post

now she has burnt all her leather Xenabras.Blush


SirDennisC
Gondolin


Sep 28 2012, 4:16am

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Lilly revealed from the right side [In reply to] Can't Post

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SirDennisC
Gondolin


Sep 28 2012, 4:30am

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Okay maybe it will work this time [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry to keep you waiting...




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Elenorflower
Mithlond


Sep 28 2012, 1:29pm

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she is very very pretty [In reply to] Can't Post

but she aint an elf. Crazy
this is an elf. IMO she is haunting and ethereal and Elven not Hollywood hottie and commercial.

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Escapist
Mithlond


Sep 28 2012, 1:50pm

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Because all elves look exactly like that picture you just showed us ... [In reply to] Can't Post

I definitely think a more eastern avari mix / sylvan elf (not the same as the kind of elf Galadriel is or the kind of elf Legolas is) could look like this:

http://www.bestcelebritypictures.com/photos/evangeline-lilly-2983.jpg

Tongue

I think it is better to distinguish the elves of Mirkwood (besides their sindar rulers) than to try to match them to Galadriel's features (as beautiful and examplary an elf as she may be).


Arwen's daughter
Gondolin


Sep 28 2012, 3:16pm

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A clone army? [In reply to] Can't Post

Wait, I think I'm in the wrong franchise again...

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Elenorflower
Mithlond


Sep 28 2012, 4:27pm

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er [In reply to] Can't Post

no not all Elves look like Alba Rohrwacher, that would be silly. Wink


Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Sep 28 2012, 4:34pm

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Agreed 100% [In reply to] Can't Post

Lilly is far too "hot American girl next door" for Middle Earth.

A more classical beauty, such as Cate Blanchett, yet with a slightly wilder and less refined edge, should have been chosen.

They have been pretty good on casting, but the choice of Lilly is baffling.


Elenorflower
Mithlond


Sep 28 2012, 8:13pm

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yes baffling [In reply to] Can't Post

if PJ does one thing right its casting. He got perfect casting for LOTR, the only one I didnt much like was Faramir, not because I didnt like the actor, because he did a good job, nonwithstanding the character changes. The casting for the Hobbit also seems good per se without having seen anyone properly act yet, but this Tauriel thing is mind boggling. I mean obviously she is pretty and maybe most people wont notice, but she looks like she has walked straight out of Eragon, or Legend of the Seeker. Made for tv stuff, certainly not classic, and certainly not Tolkien, but what do I know? I could be wrong.


Laitholiel_the_SeaElf
Menegroth


Sep 29 2012, 4:46am

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It is just so very, very unfortunate... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that "Testosterone Island" has only one inhabitant when "Estrogen Island" has so many. Come on PJ, can't you create a few more female characters? Evangeline is lonely.




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And not what loves you back.
And I'm in love with illusions
So saw me in half.
I'm in love with tricks
So pull another rabbit out your hat.




Tim
Dor-Lomin


Sep 29 2012, 2:16pm

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To each their own I suppose [In reply to] Can't Post

I've seen both Eragon and Legend of the Seeker and the picture of Tauriel didn't remind me of either.

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Tim: Quite.


Fardragon
Nargothrond

Sep 29 2012, 2:59pm

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I did think they might make a couple of the main dwarves female [In reply to] Can't Post

But the beards make it difficult to tell.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath

Sep 29 2012, 3:42pm

Post #121 of 136 (2511 views)
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Can't be wrong about your impressions! [In reply to] Can't Post

Smile

That's precisely how I feel about her look. Even Liv Tyler was much more of a classic beauty.

I think with Lilly's casting, the film-makers are overdoing the distinction between the Avari and the rest. I fear what the rest of the background elves look like.


Fardragon
Nargothrond

Sep 30 2012, 8:08am

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I don't see it. [In reply to] Can't Post

I see nothing in her appearance to contradict anything in Tolkien's description of elves.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Elenorflower
Mithlond


Sep 30 2012, 11:26am

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well it doesnt contradict Tolkiens [In reply to] Can't Post

description of Elves, but it does kinda contradict PJs version of Elves. You may as well have Lindsay Lohan, she has a cute freckly face with rubber lips and long red hair. Probably cheaper wages too, you could pay her in booze and fags. Sly


Fardragon
Nargothrond

Sep 30 2012, 2:20pm

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I don't see how. [In reply to] Can't Post

She has the usual number of eyes, noses, mouths, ears, etc, in all the usual places. I really don't see any difference between her and Cate Blanchett.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome


Sep 30 2012, 6:03pm

Post #125 of 136 (2458 views)
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Screen presence [In reply to] Can't Post


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She has the usual number of eyes, noses, mouths, ears, etc, in all the usual places. I really don't see any difference between her and Cate Blanchett.



Evangeline Lilly doesn't seem as though she could achieve the same kind of ethereal presence as Cate Blanchett's Galadriel. On the other hand, Tauriel is a Silvan Elf, not Noldor. It is arguable that she should be earthier than Lady Galadriel.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White

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