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Galadriel and the Walls of Dol Guldur

Elenorflower
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Sep 26 2012, 8:27pm


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After the fall of the Dark Tower and the passing of Sauron the Shadow was lifted from the hearts of all who opposed him, but fear and despair fell upon his servants and allies. Three times Lórien had been assailed from Dol Guldur, but besides the valour of the elven people of that land, the power that dwelt there was too great for any to overcome, unless Sauron had come there himself. Though grievous harm was done to the fair woods on the borders, the assaults were driven back; and when the Shadow passed, Celeborn came forth and led the host of Lórien over Anduin in many boats. They took Dol Guldur, and Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits, and the forest was cleansed. Appendix B



I dont know if this is an issue or not as regards continuity, but if Galadriel threw down the walls of DolGuldur after the defeat of Sauron, surely she cant already have done it during the time of the Hobbit?

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Galadriel and the Walls of Dol Guldur Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 26 2012, 8:27pm
    I assume that the fortress is captured, not destroyed in AUJ Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 26 2012, 8:42pm
    why not? Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 26 2012, 8:45pm
        By the way I concure with the Idea Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 26 2012, 9:01pm
            Problem is, Phillipa didn't say the most powerful Elf. I could have agreed with that AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 26 2012, 10:15pm
                Just depends what one means by "power" Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 26 2012, 10:18pm
                Again, it depends on your definition of power Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 27 2012, 5:06am
            Poor Glorfy There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 27 2012, 12:41am
                Glorfy?? Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 27 2012, 12:45am
    I'd be happy for Galadriel to destroy Dol Guldur during The Hobbit DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 8:47pm
        I think that the destruction of Dol Guldur by Galadriel Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 26 2012, 9:08pm
            It would be the conclusion to the sub-plot DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:12pm
        Agreed dubulous Send a private message to dubulous Sep 27 2012, 4:16pm
            Our last return Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 27 2012, 4:33pm
                Depending on your age Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 1:01am
                    Well being six decades and four years Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2012, 4:16am
                        well they seem to be Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 28 2012, 1:07pm
                            I hope they do Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 3:57pm
    Perhaps Galadriel's already destroyed it by the time of TH? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 26 2012, 9:06pm
        Perhaps the ruins in the trailer weren't of Dol Guldur DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:08pm
            Possibly, thought it would match the description of the location from Empire's July 2011 article: Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 26 2012, 9:16pm
                Good memory :-) DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:18pm
                    Actually I had a copy of the article on-hand, but thanks anyway! ;) And this seems likely.... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 26 2012, 9:21pm
                        Agreed, and I hope this is the case DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:26pm
                        Well he was in hiding after all Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 26 2012, 9:27pm
            Dol Guldur versus Tombs of the Nazgul Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Sep 27 2012, 8:31am
        I was thinking about this the other day. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 26 2012, 9:29pm
    But in the time of Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 26 2012, 9:36pm
        In terms of the book, it was a fortress - as far as I can remember, it only turned into ruins after the War of the Ring DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:39pm
            Although a ruined fortress could still be referred to as a fortress. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 26 2012, 9:48pm
                Yup, that's right. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:49pm
                    He left out plenty of descriptive details Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 26 2012, 9:53pm
                        Not in The Hobbit ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:57pm
                    Although actually now that I come to look for it Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 26 2012, 10:05pm
                        All equivalent to fortress DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 10:07pm
                            I am wondering if people will confuse Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 26 2012, 10:12pm
                                It shouldn't be too confusing DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 10:16pm
                                But it IS Sauron. This isn't Barad-Dur, but Sauron and The Necromancer are AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 26 2012, 10:16pm
                            Tsk Tsk - all different Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 26 2012, 10:16pm
                And looks may be deceiving. Dungeons are often Subteranean. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 26 2012, 10:26pm
            If indeed Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 26 2012, 9:55pm
                Superpowerful? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2012, 9:59pm
        I would assume it is still intact during the Quest of Erebor Snaga Send a private message to Snaga Sep 26 2012, 9:58pm
    how odd Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 26 2012, 10:47pm
        it was meant to be Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 26 2012, 11:03pm
        I never knew that either! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 9:07am
    Dol Guldur is almost certainly going to be destroyed in the films HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Sep 26 2012, 11:39pm
    The problem with Galadriel Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 27 2012, 12:28am
        Interesting idea HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Sep 27 2012, 1:05am
            That is a wonderful idea. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 27 2012, 5:19am
                Dol Guldur is Practically NextDoor to Lorien Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Sep 27 2012, 8:50am
                    Dol Guldur is ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Sep 27 2012, 11:31am
                        The comparison to Isengard makes sense. The Preciousss Send a private message to The Preciousss Sep 27 2012, 11:50am
        The LOTR films Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 27 2012, 5:10am
            Excellent observation Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 27 2012, 5:18am
    I think it is very likley Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Sep 27 2012, 8:33am
    Book canon details aren't important in cases like this Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 1:14pm
        Who is to say that Galadriel can't bring down Dol Guldur in 'The Hobbit'... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 27 2012, 1:20pm
            I thought along those lines as well...interesting to note the history Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 27 2012, 3:22pm
                Correction: The WC did not attack Dol Guldur in TA 2063 Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 27 2012, 8:00pm
        It’s now or never Finrod Send a private message to Finrod Sep 28 2012, 1:16am
    I dont think Galadriels Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 27 2012, 1:21pm
        Galadriel is a complex character Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 5:43pm
            Her "tempted" self was quite powerful... Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 27 2012, 6:40pm
            the battles of Nerwen Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Sep 28 2012, 4:17pm
                All I could find so far Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Oct 4 2012, 6:17pm

 
 
 

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