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Elenorflower
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 9:26pm
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and she doesnt even look like an elf, and I should know.  Dont care how good that stunt double chick looked, Lily is much too modern looking. I am actually dreading her flying through the air like the Last Methane Bender.
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Escapist
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 9:29pm
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I think it is a good idea to add Tauriel in to fill out Mirkwood.
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But I wasn't thinking any additional characters needed to be created to fill out the characters in AUJ - male, female, dwarf, elf, man or otherwise. In fact it rather seemed that with the inclusion of the WC plot and the perspective of the goblins (and key WC members appearing to be cut - and Tom, Bert and Will looking a bit less like speaking character roles).
On the other hand, the end of The Hobbit with the events in Mirkwood and Laketown and the additional dwarves that show up is screaming for new named characters to sort of personalize the stories of the people that happen there. But all of that isn't part of AUJ from what I could gather.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 25 2012, 9:30pm
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Though I think moving from sex to gender might be a bit much for us at the moment.
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Escapist
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 9:31pm
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I think Lily makes a great elf lady //
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Elenorflower
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 9:37pm
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and blows the doors of the Dwarves prison? 
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Beutlin
Ossiriand
Sep 25 2012, 9:43pm
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Please do not confuse feminism with Judith Butler's writings.
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There is more to feminism than bad writing and antisemitism.
Ceterum censeo montem artis magicae atrae esse delendum.
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Sep 25 2012, 9:58pm
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No seriously, Gandalf leaves the party at Trollshaws.
Edit: unless you mean it's unlikely Gandalf could make the schlep all the way over to Radagast's and back in that time.
The Trollshaws are west of the Misty Mountains. Radagast's home of Rhosgobel is east of the mountains, in or near Mirkwood. If Gandalf meets up with Radagast at this point in the story then it is because Raddy was out looking for him, not at home.
'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White
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ElendurTheFaithful
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Sep 25 2012, 10:03pm
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"I have read the book many, many, many many times (as well as the drafts), and there is NO "Tauriel" or female guard-captain in it"
troubling your little world doesn't it. Instead of CAPTAIN OF THE GUARD we get FEMALE CAPTAIN OF THE GUARD. horror. jackson's out of control. tolkien's rolling in his grave right now. blasphemy. will we ever smile again?
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Escapist
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 10:21pm
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The way a person chooses to take something is their call.
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And by that power they shape the reality they know. I remember an example of someone who decidedly took everything in the most positive way possible and I watched him win many people over. It didn't always work but ... he didn't seem to care!
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 25 2012, 10:29pm
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99% sure that Tauriel and Legolas are NOT in AUJ
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They have been omitted from both the official cast lists, and the synopsis.
Curious as to why we're still entertaining the idea as a likely one.
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Shelob'sAppetite
Doriath
Sep 25 2012, 10:30pm
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He's an unknown actor, with very little experience
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So it is highly unlikely that his role will be as large as Tauriel's.
In any event, I almost dislike his original character description more than Tauriel's. "Cunning civil servant" or something like that. Sounds like a bad cliche just begging for the cutting room floor.
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SirDennisC
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Sep 25 2012, 10:31pm
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I mean there's a slight chance they might surprise us... but according to available info and images it'll be another year and a bit before we see them in action.
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Aitieuriskon
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Sep 25 2012, 11:14pm
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I think that that role will be filled not by her
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but by Legolas, who will then take the opportunity to abandon his father's kingdom in favor of fighting the good fight in the "big picture" via assisting the White Council in the Dol Guldur Episode. Tauriel will be a more savage isolationist and will remain in Mirkwood and take part in the Bo5A
"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 26 2012, 1:16am
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So much crap, so little time.
Yet I see relatively little disparagement of PB over the others. Why is this I wonder?
Why the early attention to this particular made-up garbage character as opposed to the others? Because in this case the pandering is so obvious.
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SirDennisC
Gondolin
Sep 26 2012, 1:44am
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It takes fresher bait than that.
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Actually I've enjoyed this and similar discussions over the past few days. But we should be careful about vague aspersions, made even in jest.
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Fàfnir
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Sep 26 2012, 2:04am
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It would then be a shame the way Gimli yell at Legolas at Elrond's counsel, knowing that he is the one who freed his father
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DanielLB
Elvenhome
Sep 26 2012, 7:22am
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I suspect (and I know others do as well) Alfrid will be the Grima of The Hobbit.
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No, he probably won't have as much screentime, but both plots could easily ruin TDOS.
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macfalk
Doriath
Sep 26 2012, 8:23am
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For real? Have you seen the movie? I certainly haven't. You dismiss a character as 'garbage' without actually having seen this character in action?
The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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macfalk
Doriath
Sep 26 2012, 8:25am
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Sounds like Wormtongue!
The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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macfalk
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Sep 26 2012, 8:28am
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Evangeline Lilly - Not A Real Purist?
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We have a new TORN-acronym! NARP.
The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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Otaku-sempai
Elvenhome
Sep 26 2012, 8:56am
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Why the early attention to this particular made-up garbage character as opposed to the others? Because in this case the pandering is so obvious.
I really don't see the alteration of the gender of the Wood-elf captain and giving her a name (as well as expanding her role) as necessarily pandering. Jackson may have given her a good reason to take up a bow instead of marrying and having children; maybe Tauriel is incapable of having children so that defending the kingdom is her contribution to the common good. Perhaps we should wait to actually see her on film before we judge the character too harshly.
'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White
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Fardragon
Nargothrond
Sep 26 2012, 10:10am
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Curious as to why we're still entertaining the idea as a likely one.
A Far Dragon is the best kind...
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Fardragon
Nargothrond
Sep 26 2012, 10:16am
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To give The Master someone to expound his evil plans too.
Why does the Master need his role expanded?
Because BARD most defiantly needs his role expanded.
Which means he needs an antagonist.
A Far Dragon is the best kind...
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