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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 25 2012, 7:30pm
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They are not listed on the official cast list for AUJ
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So it looks like we may wait until TDOS to see them.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Sep 25 2012, 7:34pm
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And since you're probably right, depressing. 
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Sep 25 2012, 7:34pm
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I can't recall a single post about Alfrid naked or in any sort of sexual situation yet I have read lots of posts, indeed whole threads elsewhere, regarding these aspects of Tauriel.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Sep 25 2012, 7:35pm
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A minor character who merits an action figure, it would seem. //
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 7:37pm
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And why do you think that might be?
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Fàfnir
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Sep 25 2012, 7:38pm
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If the hobbit were originally a book with zero male character, the addition of alfrid would have generated a lot of these jokes.
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Sep 25 2012, 7:38pm
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I'm sure posters and readers will draw their own conclusions.
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 7:40pm
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I have read the book many, many, many many times (as well as the drafts), and there is NO "Tauriel" or female guard-captain in it.
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DanielLB
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Sep 25 2012, 7:41pm
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He's just as made up as Tauriel though
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And he could just as easily "ruin" the plot of Laketown or the Master, as Tauriel could to the plot of Mirkwood.
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 7:46pm
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If you're going to play the Chauvanist Card, at least do so without the feigned coyness.
Unfortunately, you're stuck with a reality you really don't want to admit. PBJ invented this character for one or both of two reasons:
a) affirmative action, and/or
b) cheesecake
She's a Seven of Nine, and you know it.
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Fàfnir
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Sep 25 2012, 7:50pm
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I personally think they will both be great
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Tauriel and Alfrid will add some life to Thranduil's palace and laketown. Lord of the rings was already full of character, but in the hobbit i think it was absolutely necessary to add some since there were very few of them. In laketown there were only the Master, Bard (who is introduced just before laketown is destroyed) and the others. It was a good idea to add a minor character. Same thing with tauriel : Legolas would have seemed quite lonely if he was the only elf kicking ass in the movies
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Captain Salt
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Sep 25 2012, 7:52pm
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I suppose it's possible, but IMO they wouldn't cast a "name" actress in a Gamling-sized role. //
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My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!
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Captain Salt
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Sep 25 2012, 7:53pm
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Agreed based on what we know thus far. //
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My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!
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Fàfnir
Nargothrond
Sep 25 2012, 7:53pm
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You can't say that before you saw the movie, I'm sure it will be a quite well written character since they really risking to upset fans with her addition in the movie. They wouldn't do it just for affirmative action or cheesecake
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Sep 25 2012, 8:03pm
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Authorial guesswork neither of those terms would feature if I did.
Alas I am not familiar with star trek so I cannot comment on the specific.
LR
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 8:12pm
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How much "life" does a prison need?
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After all, that's the role Thranduil's caves play in the story. The emotional atmosphere, if you will, of the segment is the intense loneliness of the Dwarves in solitary confinement and of Bilbo in his furtive sneaking.
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 8:15pm
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didn't say, "Hiding your head under the covers is no way to go through life."
neither of those terms would feature if I did
Well, PB admitted to it, even if not in those precise words.
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Sep 25 2012, 8:20pm
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I'm afraid we have very different of the concepts under discussion. Funnily enough along similar lines to the other discussion now that I think of it.
LR
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Solicitr
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 8:37pm
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In PB's own words: So she immediately brings a very powerful feminine energy into the film... we did feel the weight of it being a “boys’ own” story. After a while, you’d feel the weight of it. And we did create a character. Her name’s Tauriel. We created her for that reason. To bring that energy into the film, that feminine energy.
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Lacrimae Rerum
Hithlum
Sep 25 2012, 8:43pm
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And you think that is "affirmative action"?
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Goodness I don't think I can possibly unpick that far enough to begin to move forward. I did wonder if you were referring to that quote but decided you couldn't possibly be!
I'll leave some space for others to comment so that this avoids becoming a back and forth.
Besides I have embroidery to get back to and these bras don't burn themselves.
LR
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Escapist
Mithlond
Sep 25 2012, 8:51pm
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If it must be that Tauriel is in the first movie, then I would consider one of the following:
- She brought the cute hamsters to Radagast after finding them injured in some way by the shadow.
- She is with Legolas and they both are settled nicely into the WC storyline - making a connection to Thranduil's realm.
- She brings summons or news from Thranduil to Radagast (maybe separate from Legolas or maybe with him).
... and possibly both 1. and 3.
I'm reminded of a time when I received some strange advice from a drunken man.
"You don't want to be too good, people like to have something on you." Maybe that CGI can be perfect for the next films instead, right? And maybe much of the second film is almost ready anyway.
Affirmative action
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