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The new take on old schizo-Gollum

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Sep 22 2012, 5:23am


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It seems from the two Gollum portions of the trailer (one being in the alternate ending dedicated to him) that we are getting a revised take on his split personality. This time around, the Smeagol/Gollum (or Slinker/Stinker) duality from LotR seems to have been softened into a Nice/Nasty relationship—almost like the old Angel and Devil on either shoulder gag—with the Nice side being downright cutesy. No doubt this duality is going to be played for as much humor as possible, a-la the "I wasn't talking to you" joke from the alternate ending.

While Jackson and Serkis greatly amplified the schizophrenic self-conversations of the character in LotR, the kernel was there in the text. In TH, however, even though Gollum does talk to himself, there is little indication of an actual multiple personality disorder. Even in the revisions to the "Riddles in the Dark" chapter made to bring the character into line with its later incarnation, the closest we get is Gollum addressing both himself and the Ring as "Precious."

However, I'm wondering if Jackson is actually trying to capture something of both versions of the text, here—with Nice Gollum being closer to the 1st edition character who really does intend to give the Ring to Bilbo as a present (helpfully offering to show the way out when he can't find it) and Nasty Gollum being the post-LotR transformation who intends to murder and eat Bilbo no matter what the outcome of the riddle game. I'm also wondering if the "theft" of the Ring will be depicted as the event that pushes Gollum finally over the edge and dispels Nice Gollum for good.

I guess most of you know that I don't care much for Jackson's overstated take on things (and any performance that reduces Gollum to a Howie Mandel impersonation grates on me,) but I'm trying to find something promising, here.

Man is but an ass if he go about to expound this dream.

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The new take on old schizo-Gollum Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 22 2012, 5:23am
    stinker/slinker Gwynele Sep 22 2012, 6:25am
        My take was diffferent to PJ's Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Sep 22 2012, 7:50am
            I was ALWAYS dissatisfied with the ending! wendy woo Send a private message to wendy woo Sep 22 2012, 3:29pm
        Gollum must have been somewhat better before Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 22 2012, 3:56pm
    I think Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Sep 22 2012, 8:42am
    i don't like that gollum so far elanesse Send a private message to elanesse Sep 22 2012, 10:19am
        He has to be cute and sweet! wendy woo Send a private message to wendy woo Sep 22 2012, 3:32pm
    Gollum will be evil and SScary! burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 22 2012, 12:12pm
    I'm not sure diagnosing Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 22 2012, 12:13pm
        I think you're right about the text indicating 'two voices'... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 22 2012, 1:13pm
            Noted Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 22 2012, 2:45pm
                I dont think Gollum had Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 22 2012, 11:08pm
        The text Lacrimae quoted... comandantedavid Send a private message to comandantedavid Sep 22 2012, 3:00pm
            Ageed to all of the Above Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Sep 22 2012, 3:25pm
        Good point Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 22 2012, 3:49pm
            Yes and this goes towards Dormouse's point too. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 22 2012, 5:11pm
    Now Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Sep 22 2012, 4:41pm
    Honestly I think the Gollum we saw Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 22 2012, 11:29pm
        Interesting point Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 22 2012, 11:36pm
        Completely Gusev8 Send a private message to Gusev8 Sep 24 2012, 7:46am
        But on the other side Gusev8 Send a private message to Gusev8 Sep 24 2012, 7:48am
            I agree we only saw a small portion Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 25 2012, 1:05am

 
 
 

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