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''At your service'' touch

The Shire

Sep 21 2012, 6:14pm

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''At your service'' touch Can't Post

I am glad they did not cut that out


Sep 21 2012, 6:17pm

Post #2 of 19 (824 views)
There are many things I'm glad they're not leaving out ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Not just this.

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Sep 21 2012, 6:36pm

Post #3 of 19 (799 views)
Yes, but will we see the proper form in his reply? [In reply to] Can't Post

"At yours and your family's" or something along those lines.

I also remember how Tolkien went into a little detail about Gandalf following the proper etiquette when talking to the eagles. Any guesses about whether or not that will be in the movies as well? I seem to recall that happened as they were preparing to part company with them so I reckon it would push it to the second film. Also, there's the question about whether there will be actual dialogue with the eagles and what form it will take. All neat stuff to wonder about and anticipate.Wink

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Sep 21 2012, 6:40pm

Post #4 of 19 (823 views)
Bilbo's line about the mountain [In reply to] Can't Post

Has to be in! I really love that part:


"Is that The Mountain?" asked Bilbo in a solemn voice, looking at it with round eyes. He had never seen a thing that looked so big before.
"Of course not!" said Balin. "That is only be the beginning of the Misty Mountains, and we have to get through, or over, or under those somehow, before we can come into Wilderland beyond. And it is a deal of a way even from the other side of them to the Lonely Mountain in the East where Smaug lies on our treasure."

(This post was edited by burgahobbit on Sep 21 2012, 6:41pm)


Sep 21 2012, 6:48pm

Post #5 of 19 (671 views)
I hope so [In reply to] Can't Post

But actually he is so shocked and flustered at first that he just says "Thanks!" and only later he remembers the proper reply which I think you've nailed.

I bet the eagles will talk since the wargs and trolls are going to, but then again they may not as I cannot imagine them letting the spiders talk...we'll have to wait and see! But I think that the eagles should leave at the end of film 1, and Gandalf should announce his departure that will take place very soon. If it ends while the eagles are in the air I will be somewhat dissapointed, so during that actual sequence I'll probably be thinking, "Land! Land! Land!"


Sep 22 2012, 4:12am

Post #6 of 19 (436 views)
I want to see mountains again, mountains gandalf! [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope so it's a great line and it will make that line from LOTR better


Sep 22 2012, 12:19pm

Post #7 of 19 (305 views)
You're right it would [In reply to] Can't Post

In The Hobbit Bilbo is fearful of the mountains but now in LOTR he really wants to see mountains again!

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Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 2:05pm

Post #8 of 19 (307 views)
Wargs will talk? [In reply to] Can't Post

Since when is that confirmed?

Grey Havens

Sep 22 2012, 3:46pm

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It was confirmed that they will talk in their own language! [In reply to] Can't Post

I would assume that is barking and other wolf-sounds :)

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Sep 22 2012, 5:14pm

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Link: [In reply to] Can't Post


The wargs will speak!

Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 5:25pm

Post #11 of 19 (243 views)
I remember that now. [In reply to] Can't Post

Like it has been said, though, it'll probably more resemble a growling rather than human language.


Sep 22 2012, 7:22pm

Post #12 of 19 (233 views)
I think it'll sort of be a mix [In reply to] Can't Post

Of growling and human language.


In The Hobbit movie we will find probably another language constructed specially for the films. It will be Wargs’ tongue. The chief of the Wargs, giant white wolf will comunicate with his Wargs in a simple gluttal language.

Like you said, it will probably more resemble a growling noise, but it will be very unique and interesting.

(This post was edited by burgahobbit on Sep 22 2012, 7:23pm)


Sep 22 2012, 7:35pm

Post #13 of 19 (219 views)
I think it would be believable if the wargs were just a little bit better than these guys at English: [In reply to] Can't Post





Just good enough to understand words or short phrases ... I think it could work (except that these dogs sound like pansies).


Sep 22 2012, 7:37pm

Post #14 of 19 (210 views)
Or this [In reply to] Can't Post



Sep 22 2012, 9:51pm

Post #15 of 19 (232 views)
Perhaps the Warg's language will be a debased form of the Black Speech. [In reply to] Can't Post

That would make a certain amount of sense and would stilll be impossible for the audience to understand without translation. It would also explain how Gandalf understands it.

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Sep 22 2012, 9:58pm

Post #16 of 19 (191 views)
That would be interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

And it is possible, but I'm thinking it will be something completely new and I personally am looking forward to it! Smile


Sep 22 2012, 11:36pm

Post #17 of 19 (171 views)
Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

Love it.


Sep 23 2012, 1:58am

Post #18 of 19 (176 views)
Hadn't even noticed. [In reply to] Can't Post

But I'm glad it's there, too!

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Lost Hobbit

Sep 23 2012, 10:40am

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Introductions [In reply to] Can't Post

I think, considering book, it took a long time before all dwarves gathered. With that, scenes of Bag End will be too long. So I expect just appearance of quick cuts through dwarves standing at the door and introducing themselves. Maybe that scene from teaser, where Gandalf introduces all of them, was intended just for trailer.


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