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Thoughts on The Great Goblin?
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Nightingale
Rohan


Sep 20 2012, 3:00pm

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You surprise me :-p// [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 3:05pm

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Yes, on his head. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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DanielLB
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Sep 20 2012, 3:07pm

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It's just that one shot. Everything else I love. :-) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Elessar
Valinor


Sep 20 2012, 3:08pm

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Looks good [In reply to] Can't Post

He's like the art shown above which is how I had pictured him. I saw a picture of the face in the annual book and so it was nice to see the full reveal.



Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Sep 20 2012, 3:20pm

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That large goblin in the Hobbit annual looked infinitely better [In reply to] Can't Post

Is this the same?


Carne
Tol Eressea

Sep 20 2012, 3:23pm

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That was probably concept art [In reply to] Can't Post

Plus we only see the Great Goblin dead in the trailer. He might look quite different in motion.


Elessar
Valinor


Sep 20 2012, 3:23pm

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Pretty sure it is. [In reply to] Can't Post

Looks exactly the same to me.



Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Sep 20 2012, 3:40pm

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Was worried he'd look more like Boss Nass, however [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure about this design in any event...will have to see it in motion (falling on the Dwarves doesn't count) first.

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5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Vangalad
Lorien


Sep 20 2012, 3:53pm

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Do you have any pic from this annual to share? [In reply to] Can't Post

Nevermind if it's a trouble, just curious to see it.


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Snaga
Lorien


Sep 20 2012, 4:18pm

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I really like it... [In reply to] Can't Post

...and as far has him being big, that's no problem. The LOTR films established that there was a tremendous variety of orcs and goblins with many different shapes and sizes. It only stands to reason that some are going to be huge, and it's not a far stretch to assume that a huge bully of a goblin could push and shove his way into command of a goblin nation.

What bothers me about that little glimpse of the trailer is that it makes it apparent the writers decided to go another way with the goblin king's death, as it is clear he dies after a battle and not from Gandalf suddenly appearing and striking him down. I can see why they decided to change this part in adapting it for film, but I also think it would have worked with a nice bit of suprise and irony for the 'movie firsters' if they built up the extreme badness of the goblin king as a character to suddenly have his head fly from his shoulders with Gandalf appearing behind him. They could have had their battle AFTER that.

Oh well. I still like the look of him, and the funny little bit of anti-climax when he falls and nearly crushes the party.

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Solicitr
Lorien

Sep 20 2012, 4:22pm

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BUT [In reply to] Can't Post


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The Hobbit had a lot of humor thrown in with the serious scenes, especially early on in the book.

Remember, we're not dealing with the Dark Lord Sauron covering Middle-Earth in darkness. We're dealing with a group of 13 dwarves, a reluctant hobbit, and a pushy wizard on an adventure to kill a dragon and take treasure out of a mountain.

Seriousness level - 50.


There seems to be no trace of Tolkien's dry, puckish and slightly professorial humor. Instead we're getting juvenile Jar-Jar Binks stuff. Knights Who Say NI might be funny, too, but they're not Tolkien.


Elessar
Valinor


Sep 20 2012, 4:25pm

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Not with me right now [In reply to] Can't Post

I can try to do something when I get home.



Vangalad
Lorien


Sep 20 2012, 4:53pm

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Much appreciated :-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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nobofthepony
Lorien


Sep 20 2012, 4:55pm

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My main thought is that this was the worst initial character reveal ever// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


WhiskFishercat
Bree


Sep 20 2012, 4:59pm

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exactly..and the worse part is... [In reply to] Can't Post

now we all know what to expect when we see the dwarves in that heap of debris. That was a spoiler for sure Unsure

I like the design though, the nastier, the uglier, i cant wait to see that mother puss bucket speak!


dormouse
Half-elven


Sep 20 2012, 5:11pm

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But that scene might not be in the final film.... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Sep 20 2012, 5:19pm

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He falls well. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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imin
Valinor


Sep 20 2012, 5:48pm

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Seems to have a massive goitre! [In reply to] Can't Post

That was the first thing i thought when i saw him, other than not knowing it was the Great Goblin as i thought it was a troll!

I think the crown looks decent from what we can see, made from pig iron probably with teeth or something similar stuck in.

The actual design, its hard to tell really from something which is lying dead sideways on the screen for about 0.5 second but i thought it looked alright, im sure it will look better when moving around and alive :P


kjeevah
Bree

Sep 20 2012, 5:53pm

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What he looks like in motion [In reply to] Can't Post


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Not sure about this design in any event...will have to see it in motion (falling on the Dwarves doesn't count) first.


if you want to see it in motion this is a fairly good indication, this is the actor who is playing him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F7E7lAp-hM


nobofthepony
Lorien


Sep 20 2012, 5:59pm

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Bilbo may have embellished this in his telling of the story [In reply to] Can't Post

Ok...I have theory that might help those of us who find the GG's last-minute cameo in the trailer a bit...to much.

Remember, Bilbo is telling the story. We may see some...err...embellishments on his part.

Then cut to Frodo, saying, "Come on, Bilbo."

Bilbo: "It happened just as I told you!"

Frodo: "Have it your own way. Another pint of the Gaffer's home brew?"

Bilbo: "Right, then. Where was I?"

Even if that doesn't happen, we can comfort ourselves knowing that what we are seeing is Bilbo's re-telling (unreliable narrator) and may not correspond to the actual events in a completely accurate manner.

Let's face it...Bilbo and PJ have a lot in common in the way they tell stories ;-)


(This post was edited by nobofthepony on Sep 20 2012, 6:06pm)


totoro
Lorien

Sep 20 2012, 6:06pm

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Not so sure about that [In reply to] Can't Post

I think Gandy cuts GG in half, and the dwarves and Gandy fall or jump to get away from the swarms of goblins. That was a hard part to envision in the book. Gandy has a spark storm that sends the goblins scrambling, but there were so damn many of them. How did the dwarves dodge between them all? Here it looks like GG is near the exit and follows them down. Or, at least half of him does.

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...that this gag occurs a while after Gandalf kills the GG.

I think it will fit better in the film.



DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 20 2012, 6:30pm

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I preferred the annual Goblin too / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 20 2012, 6:32pm

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Of the Great Goblin? [In reply to] Can't Post

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Ataahua
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Sep 20 2012, 7:35pm

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Oversized images removed. [In reply to] Can't Post

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Vangalad
Lorien


Sep 20 2012, 9:12pm

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Yes... [In reply to] Can't Post

 Actually I've seen these!

Maybe there is another pic from the annual that Elessar spoke of, that could spread some light on the matter.


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Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

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