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*POTENTIAL SPOILERS* Updated "Unexpected Journey Scroll"

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Sep 8 2012, 2:12am


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I just downloaded the new official 'Hobbit' app from Warner bros and while looking at the scroll I quickly noticed that the scroll ends before Beorn and the barrels out of bond scene. These pictures are instead replaced with a picture of either the eagle's eerie or the lonely mountain along with gandalf and thorin. I guess this confirms what people were saying about the AUJ ending after the eagles rescue the company. What do you guys think?

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"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Balrog! A Balrog is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand. What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.''

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*POTENTIAL SPOILERS* Updated "Unexpected Journey Scroll" Flame of Udun Send a private message to Flame of Udun Sep 8 2012, 2:12am
    no way There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 2:15am
    This might confirm it. FiliSonOfDis Send a private message to FiliSonOfDis Sep 8 2012, 2:17am
        still the same on official website BeornBerserker Send a private message to BeornBerserker Sep 8 2012, 2:32am
            I have a feeling Flame of Udun Send a private message to Flame of Udun Sep 8 2012, 2:42am
        Every month something happens to make me less excited. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 4:44am
    You beat me to the punch :) pacochoa Send a private message to pacochoa Sep 8 2012, 2:46am
    Talk about a punch to the gut duats Send a private message to duats Sep 8 2012, 2:54am
    blast! I need to hook up my iphone to my computer to DL it. There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 2:55am
    I'll be very dissappointed if that turns out to be the ending. Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 8 2012, 3:00am
    Ugh... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 3:02am
        shorter movies There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 3:05am
            So... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 3:08am
                possibly There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 3:10am
            I'm not sure that we will see a change in... Owain Send a private message to Owain Sep 8 2012, 3:10am
                I hope so. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 3:26am
                    They cheatsss us, preciousss! Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 3:31am
                        If the ending is the burning trees Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 8 2012, 3:34am
                        Agreed. There are things you just can't properly take back. What is more, as has been AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 5:48am
            No. Pushing Beorn and Thranduil back does not add to the wonder. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 5:02am
        I have thought this all along... dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Sep 8 2012, 3:35am
            But if i remember correctly... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 3:50am
                That's true to some extent dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Sep 8 2012, 3:55am
        This does NOT mean shorter films Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:22am
            And add to this Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:26am
            Agreed... The Grey Wanderer Send a private message to The Grey Wanderer Sep 8 2012, 3:20pm
    Nice catch! Owain Send a private message to Owain Sep 8 2012, 3:02am
    Here's hoping duats Send a private message to duats Sep 8 2012, 3:05am
    It's hard to say // Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 8 2012, 3:07am
    Noticed that as well Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 8 2012, 3:13am
    I wouldn't assume there are only half as many dwarves or that the movie ends at the last part Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 8 2012, 3:24am
    Here's the pictures in higher quality from Owain's thread: Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 8 2012, 3:25am
        Ah thanks, Carne! Was trying to abide by the rules.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Sep 8 2012, 3:27am
        Dwalin's right ear ... GafferBoffin Send a private message to GafferBoffin Sep 8 2012, 3:48am
    Pretty vile if true HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Sep 8 2012, 3:26am
        Yeah, i'm curious... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 3:33am
            No one is considering that PJ makes stuff up stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Sep 8 2012, 4:06am
                On the contrary... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 4:17am
        Pretty much this duats Send a private message to duats Sep 8 2012, 3:40am
            But to be devil's advocate here... dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Sep 8 2012, 3:43am
                Which is why duats Send a private message to duats Sep 8 2012, 3:44am
                    I didn't either - far from it. dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Sep 8 2012, 3:48am
                        But look at what we're left with for TDoS now duats Send a private message to duats Sep 8 2012, 3:51am
                            It does seem like a lot dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Sep 8 2012, 4:03am
                            Also I'd like to propose a third possible structure dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Sep 8 2012, 4:06am
                            The "Desolation of Smaug" does not imply that *spoilers* Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:33am
                                *spoilers* dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Sep 8 2012, 2:06pm
                                    If this is so rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 8 2012, 3:32pm
                                        The end of DoS... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2012, 7:08pm
                                            hmmm, i still think the *spoilers* rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 8 2012, 7:30pm
                                                Who knows? It could still happen that way. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 8 2012, 7:31pm
                                    Movie four *spoilers* Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 8 2012, 4:00pm
    Those of you who say the earlier ending is bad ASTOUND me. Istaris'staffs Send a private message to Istaris'staffs Sep 8 2012, 4:24am
        I still don't think it'll end that early. That scroll could mean anything. Maybe the entire thing was to big to upload? The trailer should give us a good answer as well. Istaris'staffs Send a private message to Istaris'staffs Sep 8 2012, 4:42am
            Agreed DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 7:37am
                I didn't think it was conclusive. . . but if it isn't, then why, oh AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 7:49am
                    I haven't the answers to that DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 7:57am
                        the evidence certainly points in that direction Wandering Ranger Send a private message to Wandering Ranger Sep 8 2012, 8:19am
                            There are occasions when this board puts me in mind of The Crystal Maze Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 9:55am
                    I have seen the scroll on my iPad Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 8:01am
                I dont think it is conclusive either really imin Send a private message to imin Sep 8 2012, 8:27am
        Deja vu mandel Send a private message to mandel Sep 8 2012, 4:51am
            Well said. Istaris'staffs Send a private message to Istaris'staffs Sep 8 2012, 4:54am
            I don't know... Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 5:16am
                "what they've done with An Unexpected Journey" easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Sep 8 2012, 5:25am
                    I hope I'm wrong. Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 5:28am
                        Where did that "rumor" come from? easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Sep 8 2012, 5:40am
                            I put it in black and white MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Sep 10 2012, 3:31am
                            MrCere speculated about it a while back (Aug 1) Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 10 2012, 3:42am
                                That and Lacrimae Rerum's observation in SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 10 2012, 3:59am
                        That's because Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:46am
                    Here, here There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 5:49am
                        this confirms nothing lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Sep 8 2012, 5:54am
                            I DID realize. Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 5:56am
                                I really don't think There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 6:01am
                                    My love for that man would tenfold if this were true DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 7:39am
                                well lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Sep 8 2012, 6:01am
            Deja vu, indeed, Mandel. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Sep 8 2012, 5:38am
                Yes, Lissuin, it's true... mandel Send a private message to mandel Sep 8 2012, 6:03am
                    hey hey There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 8 2012, 6:08am
                        There&ThereAgain, I didn't mean the 'nerd rage' comment to be hostile... mandel Send a private message to mandel Sep 8 2012, 6:49am
            Some seem to be floating on the assumption that Peter is some manner of infallible AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 6:24am
                AinurOrolin, I don't have to think PJ... mandel Send a private message to mandel Sep 8 2012, 6:44am
                    Its Olorin. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 6:59am
        Yes it's BAD. For a simple, simple reason. Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 8 2012, 10:19am
            Just means there is even more to look forward to in films 2 and 3. imin Send a private message to imin Sep 8 2012, 10:26am
                In the far off distant future of 2015 I might be happy about this Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 8 2012, 10:33am
                    I wonder of this is why they've held back on showing him DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 10:56am
                        Perhaps Thranduil will be seen in AUJ in some other way? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 8 2012, 12:28pm
                            We could certainly first see Thranduil Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Sep 8 2012, 1:39pm
                                I really hope so, cause i think they're gonna do like in the LOTR trilogy rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 8 2012, 3:27pm
                            I liked the idea that we will see Thranduil DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 1:52pm
            Yes, Faenoriel, Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Sep 8 2012, 11:42am
    I don't know. The actual scroll with the magnifier on the EW. site has remained the same. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 4:47am
        Marketing Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 4:52am
    There is a lot to look forward to in these movies! Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 8 2012, 5:17am
    One of the main reasons I don't want to see the film end this early is that... thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Sep 8 2012, 5:32am
    Some things we should keep in mind easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Sep 8 2012, 5:36am
    this is the first time I've been disappointed by news lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 Sep 8 2012, 5:40am
    I really, really want to say I told you so Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:14am
        It doesn't. And I hope our fears prove false, and this is indeed naught but an AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 6:32am
        people can't have it both ways Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Sep 8 2012, 7:56am
            The difference is Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 8:07am
                I am not going to say much, because it is unwise to speak in heat. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 8:15am
                Well, it looks like you were right, SA... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 8 2012, 8:19am
                    Exactly Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 8:29am
                    Hmmm SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 5:29pm
    I guess my 80% reliable source Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:39am
        i was bloody right Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Sep 8 2012, 6:52am
        I think the uneasy feeling in my stomach, paired with my profound irritation at the notion AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 6:56am
            Not necessarily a cliffhanger Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 7:03am
                "WHY DIDN'T THE EAGLES TAKE THEM?!?!?" Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 8 2012, 7:05am
                    I'm not spending another year explaining Eagle pride to friends! FiliSonOfDis Send a private message to FiliSonOfDis Sep 8 2012, 7:53am
                    And why are these hobbits always so intent on journeying to lone mountains anyway? // dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Sep 8 2012, 2:03pm
    Also Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:41am
        TheOneRing.net link Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Sep 8 2012, 6:49am
            Thanks! Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 6:55am
                subject Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Sep 8 2012, 6:58am
                    Based on the lighting Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 7:07am
            updated with Carne's images Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Sep 8 2012, 7:22am
    Thanks for linking these! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 7:16am
        Also, I wonder if these were the pictures shown at Dragon*Con? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 7:21am
    Ignoring this split business, I want to talk about the pictures! Some thoughts: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 8:12am
        I also love Balin Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 8:20am
            Even if they messed up the rest of the Dwarf designs DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 8:23am
        And... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 8:21am
            He could easily put the rune on a new staff. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 8:29am
                True DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 8:38am
            That looks like the G rune in mirror image... Earl Send a private message to Earl Sep 8 2012, 8:37am
            "Baruk Khazad", I believe. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Sep 8 2012, 11:21am
                Thanks Macfeast! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 2:02pm
                Spot on Macfeast! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 9 2012, 3:21pm
        The photos are great! imin Send a private message to imin Sep 8 2012, 8:24am
    If the first film does end that early Alientraveller Send a private message to Alientraveller Sep 8 2012, 9:15am
        Not so much, IMO Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 9:35am
            If we are talking early splits macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 8 2012, 9:51am
                I would also like to see Persbrandt sooner rather than later Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 8 2012, 9:56am
                    No climaxe needed macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 8 2012, 10:03am
    The app is amazing but this is way too disapointing rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 8 2012, 11:19am
    Some more pictures can be found here... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 12:30pm
        The more I see of Fili, Oin, Balin and Dwalin Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 8 2012, 12:53pm
        HOLY SHIP! Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 8 2012, 12:57pm
        FYI. Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 8 2012, 1:11pm
            Strange, i have Avast, too, but no warning. // Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 1:12pm
                Avast! here too with no warning, perhaps you have to click on stuff while there. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 3:30pm
                Weird. Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 8 2012, 5:08pm
        Loving the pictures! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 1:54pm
        Kili must be conceived of as half-elven. // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 3:29pm
            Kili, the antidwarven. // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 8 2012, 4:02pm
    Anyone posted the full banner yet in its new form? Here it is... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 8 2012, 1:19pm
    this is aweful news architecthis Send a private message to architecthis Sep 8 2012, 1:48pm
    This is what I get for sleeping . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Sep 8 2012, 2:00pm
        It's all a dream *waves arms around the air* DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 2:05pm
            I may just go back to bed . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Sep 8 2012, 2:20pm
                Er.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 8 2012, 4:21pm
                    to me, yes . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Sep 8 2012, 5:04pm
                        Interesting Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 5:37pm
                    wasn't sure I was going to like the films . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Sep 8 2012, 6:10pm
                        Hmmm - OK dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 8 2012, 6:25pm
                    Translation = I am not upset, so you shouldn't be either??? AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 8 2012, 9:41pm
                        Im one of those who *always* praises PJ no matter what rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 8 2012, 10:29pm
                            I understand exactly how you feel about the films. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 9 2012, 7:46am
                                pretty much rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 10 2012, 2:30am
                                    Wait until you see the new trailer Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 10 2012, 2:48am
                                        I think for alot of people sinister71 Send a private message to sinister71 Sep 10 2012, 2:57am
                                            Don't agree at all Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 10 2012, 3:09am
                                                reply imin Send a private message to imin Sep 10 2012, 12:08pm
                                            Interestingly, with each change Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 10 2012, 3:19am
                                                Even Zombie Azog? ;) kzer_za Send a private message to kzer_za Sep 10 2012, 12:58pm
                                        i hope rings7 Send a private message to rings7 Sep 10 2012, 5:03am
                        No, absolutely not... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 8 2012, 10:52pm
    Not enough material? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 3:11pm
        That is a masterclass Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 3:32pm
            A smiley would have been nice SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 4:16pm
                Oh I don't do smileys Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 4:24pm
    Assuming the scroll is accurate, where does the last panel represent? The Grey Wanderer Send a private message to The Grey Wanderer Sep 8 2012, 3:53pm
        I think it is part of the same scene. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 4:03pm
            Likely, but then it is inconsistent with the remainder of the scroll... The Grey Wanderer Send a private message to The Grey Wanderer Sep 8 2012, 4:23pm
                I would guess Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 4:29pm
                    If I remember rightly DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 8 2012, 4:33pm
    Smoke and Mirrors. lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Sep 8 2012, 4:11pm
        Why would it be any different to the first scroll? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 4:15pm
            marketing lyndomiel Send a private message to lyndomiel Sep 8 2012, 4:49pm
                No. I don't think this is at all credible. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 4:54pm
    So, we're getting about 1/3 of the content in Film 1 we would have had TH stayed a duology? Oh, great. // Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 8 2012, 5:24pm
        Wait, if they're only using 1/3 of the original content SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 5:56pm
            No, it just means that the narrative is going to be lacking in at least one film and crammed into the other(s)... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 8 2012, 6:04pm
            Gold Star Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 8 2012, 6:04pm
                A far more elegant solution SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 6:18pm
                    Yes, this must be the end! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 8 2012, 6:26pm
                        Sorry I missed your earlier post SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 6:57pm
                            I'm having trouble keeping up as well. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 8 2012, 7:38pm
                Except equations aren't representative of narrative content/storytelling Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 8 2012, 6:22pm
                    no maths I promise Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 8 2012, 6:42pm
                        It is likely that a lot of extraneous material which either would have been cut/trimmed, or relegated to an EE, will be present in the theatrical trilogy... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 8 2012, 6:53pm
                    1/4 of the entire story you say? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 8 2012, 8:27pm
                    So what? marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Sep 8 2012, 11:37pm
                        And IMO Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 9 2012, 12:25am
                            IA marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Sep 9 2012, 6:40am
                        Well Said !!!// Gimli1252 Send a private message to Gimli1252 Sep 9 2012, 6:55am
                        main issue (for me) Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 9 2012, 8:26am
    I think this is a good thing Jeremy Send a private message to Jeremy Sep 8 2012, 6:22pm
    *spoiler* is in the first movie morro91 Send a private message to morro91 Sep 9 2012, 6:50am
    What I wrote Aug. 2 MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Sep 10 2012, 6:16am
        It has to get further than the rescue. They have to at least AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2012, 6:45am

 
 
 

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