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Who in Middle Earth is The most Powerful and could single handedly defeat anyone else?


Sep 5 2012, 7:10am

Post #1 of 18 (2981 views)
Who in Middle Earth is The most Powerful and could single handedly defeat anyone else? Can't Post

Honestly I'm not sure, so I really want to know what everyone else thinks so I can make up my mind.


Sep 5 2012, 7:26am

Post #2 of 18 (1540 views)
Eru / [In reply to] Can't Post



Sep 6 2012, 7:00am

Post #3 of 18 (1395 views)
Who else [In reply to] Can't Post

What living being would in your opinion win, obviously Eru would win but that's like picking the Yankees, we all know you're gonna win.


Sep 6 2012, 7:28am

Post #4 of 18 (1454 views)
Melkor? [In reply to] Can't Post

It's quite hard to choose, I suppose. Melkor was the most powerful of the Ainur, yet he was still defeated. It comes down to how one defines "powerful". Tongue


Sep 6 2012, 6:46pm

Post #5 of 18 (1434 views)
and yet [In reply to] Can't Post

Melkor feared his brother's wrath, and Tulkas whooped him a couple of times. So yes I suppose power would be the relative term here.

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Sep 7 2012, 2:20am

Post #6 of 18 (1195 views)
Mandos. [In reply to] Can't Post

He plays the long game: Waits for people to die and enter his halls, then has absolute say over who leaves them (if ever).

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Sep 7 2012, 2:29am

Post #7 of 18 (1318 views)
Other than Eru, I think the answer is definitively no one [In reply to] Can't Post

precisely because of the power and creativity of Eru Tongue


Sep 7 2012, 7:33am

Post #8 of 18 (1398 views)
What kind of physical strength does Eru have? [In reply to] Can't Post

He might be able to create life, and intervene with the goings on of Arda, but who would win fistycuffs - Eru or Morgoth?


Sep 7 2012, 9:42am

Post #9 of 18 (1391 views)
Time. (of course) // [In reply to] Can't Post


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Sep 7 2012, 4:32pm

Post #10 of 18 (1721 views)
Still Eru [In reply to] Can't Post

Eru has the power of Creation, so he would create huge gargantuan fists of stone for himself, as big as the biggest body Morgoth could assume (when he still could). Heck, he could throw a continent at Morgoth if he wanted. He bent Middle-earth all round at the end of the Second Age, and I suppose he did it with one hand.

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Sep 27 2012, 8:53pm

Post #11 of 18 (1859 views)
Is it a battle of wills or fists? [In reply to] Can't Post

I guess the answer depends on how we interpret the question. In a match of pure physical strenght, I could put a good deal of money on Tulkas. Even Melkor was afraid of him. But then as for other powers, he'd hardly be considered the most powerful.


Oct 7 2012, 7:28pm

Post #12 of 18 (1059 views)
Lobelia [In reply to] Can't Post

Sackvile Baggins. shes scary.


Oct 10 2012, 3:13pm

Post #13 of 18 (1131 views)
Hard to say [In reply to] Can't Post

Haven't read the "Silm" or any of the appendices in ages, so I can only really think of characters that are featured prominently in LOTR/Hobbit.

However, I feel one of the great things about Tolkien's works is that real "power" had little to do with physical strength.

That said, in a battle, a few very powerful beings might be:

Good: Elrond, Glorfindel, Galadriel, Bombadil, Gandalf, Eagles

Honorable mention: Beorn, Aragorn

Evil: Sauron, Balrog, Witch King, Ungoliant, Shelob, Saruman (before he lost his power, obviously), Watcher in the water, Smaug

Maybe the Mountain Giants mentioned in the Hobbit, not sure if those should be under good or evil

In the movies Elrond, Denethor, Haldir, Galadriel, and Celeborn stink.

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Oct 24 2012, 8:09pm

Post #14 of 18 (4906 views)
Here's what you have been looking for [In reply to] Can't Post

He or she should be impossible to kill and deadly on his attacks... therefore, besides the divinities in the world of Tolkien, the only one to posess these qualities is the King of the dead. This discussion is over.

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Oct 28 2012, 8:36pm

Post #15 of 18 (1077 views)
The talking purse. [In reply to] Can't Post

Talking purse. Hands down.

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Nov 7 2012, 7:01pm

Post #16 of 18 (1036 views)
Aragorn [In reply to] Can't Post

Aragron could take down the Kind Of The Dead or just release him. I'm not sure who I would pick, possible Tom Bombadil.

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Nov 9 2012, 4:47am

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Nov 23 2012, 4:54pm

Post #18 of 18 (1267 views)
Melkor comes closest, but not Morgoth// [In reply to] Can't Post


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